Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:48918 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 97213 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2010 12:32:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2010 12:32:18 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jim@jaguNET.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jim@jaguNET.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain jaguNET.com designates 209.133.192.6 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jim@jaguNET.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.133.192.6 devsys.jaguNET.com NetCache 5.3-5.5 Received: from [209.133.192.6] ([209.133.192.6:58712] helo=jaguNET.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9B/30-04713-FCB5F1C4 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:32:16 -0400 Received: from jaguNET.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by devsys.jaguNET.com (jagunet-1.1/jagunet-1.1) with ESMTP id o5LCWC5P067284 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:32:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@jaguNET.com) Received: (from jim@localhost) by devsys.jaguNET.com (8.14.3/8.13.6/Submit) id o5LCWCt9067283; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:32:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:32:12 -0400 To: Ilia Alshanetsky Cc: Stas Malyshev , PHP Internals Message-ID: <20100621123212.GA67066@devsys.jaguNET.com> Reply-To: jim@jaguNET.com References: <4C1EA662.1010601@sugarcrm.com> <49B64FA1-1BAA-4C88-AC9D-09E75792F05C@seancoates.com> <4C1ED20E.8050805@sugarcrm.com> <4C1EDA4B.9070300@sugarcrm.com> <4C1EDCFE.307@sugarcrm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] APC in trunk From: jim@jaguNET.com (Jim Jagielski) On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:39:30PM -0400, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > Stas, > > If there is a better alternative to APC we can bundle with PHP, I am > definitely open to exploring that idea. However the alternatives I am > familiar either are closed source or have licences incompatible with > PHP, and that's without getting into the "better" argument. > As a PHP user, when moving to PHP 5.3, from 5.2 I had the question regarding which accel to use (I had been using APC). From most of what I read, APC was not compatible and looking at the APC site, the last 'stable' release was ~2years ago with a bunch of betas. I then looked at XCache and saw that it was "more maintained" as well as explicitly mentioned PHP 5.3 compatibility. In other words, to the unwashed masses, XCache, for example, seemed a "better" and "safer" choice than APC, despite the list of names attached to the latter. Certainly I would have preferred staying with APC but it sure seemed like it was a side project that people just lost interest in... Moving it to be an actual *part* of PHP would go a LOOOONG way in showing others that APC is a serious codebase again. -- =========================================================================== Jim Jagielski [|] jim@jaguNET.com [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ "Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war" ~ John Adams