Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:48908 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64083 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2010 10:39:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2010 10:39:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.42 mail-fx0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.42] ([209.85.161.42:50296] helo=mail-fx0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E4/0A-04713-C514F1C4 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 06:39:26 -0400 Received: by fxm5 with SMTP id 5so2035122fxm.29 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:39:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=b/42AI1MRpKKk1q6Yx1oKaXCBu1gsaXi6YUaAX0mx70=; b=HXoziks31YhrDW0e8vyaPOZ3hDW4VaByhF26eCc80MfgqmZShceweC9nBgVAZxg5fW TwlGaehlt+sdmcV0KYKr4nCHfyfDavQ2NbNFGyPz17aEY97Hta2uQ7JOl7tBYkbHTXtG /O6YiWQOvJM82BzwrhDDeous0nRKWfIflp4f4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=F0GlolGLDu6C+SNW6G6rEPp7sCPYrq7Bexmren/pxAsZ4uMRojVltcpcuu6FoxYjZP DsWk33O5vCZjTURC5e5XW39cGL4Bbenf22QQCen3L696N15AkzUehV72ZVXgWuBNIuYz g0W1wz/yQFrvCiB5JcS+wGoHpGtiBIMtyvlxg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.63.17 with SMTP id z17mr4730595fah.66.1277116762085; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.113.143 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:39:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9D.A9.04713.E5F3F1C4@pb1.pair.com> References: <1736FE65-C0F0-4677-919D-410C81C0FD47@macvicar.net> <4C1EF360.3060902@lerdorf.com> <5E.F5.04713.BD92F1C4@pb1.pair.com> <50.57.04713.B513F1C4@pb1.pair.com> <9B.98.04713.E173F1C4@pb1.pair.com> <9D.A9.04713.E5F3F1C4@pb1.pair.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:39:21 +0200 Message-ID: To: jvlad Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] APC in trunk From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi, On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:30 PM, jvlad wrote: >> This bug is not APC specific. >> > > In this case you can easily point out to another module suffering from this > bug, don't you? > >>> License argument does not work at all. >> >> It does, more than ever. > > Then is there any reason not to add all code compatible in php license terms > into php core? What are you talking about? Who said that we have to add any php licensed code to the core? I only said that the license is a critical part of the decision. Nothing else. > Pierre, I understand your position toward APC How can you understand something I did not even mention (if I like or not to bundle APC)? > and you won't accept any > criticism and will see only what you like to see. I do accept criticism as well, when constructive. And that's sadly not the case here, I don't see any kind of actual bugs or issues but some random complaints. My replies are only about getting the facts behind "not maintained" and "buggy". I'm still waiting for them. > This approach will only reduce competition and will shrink the market. As of now the only competitor actually reducing competition is Zend (no offense meant to the Zend guys), and the reasons are not technical but marketing related. I don't think we can do anything like that or anything against that. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org