Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:48857 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 23600 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2010 20:45:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Jun 2010 20:45:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 209.85.160.42 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.42 mail-pw0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.42] ([209.85.160.42:53367] helo=mail-pw0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E6/61-15307-3FD7E1C4 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 16:45:40 -0400 Received: by pwi4 with SMTP id 4so1253493pwi.29 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.66.35 with SMTP id o35mr2644363wfa.300.1277066736348; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rasmus-Lerdorfs-MacBook-Pro.local (c-98-234-184-167.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [98.234.184.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c1sm34962269wam.19.2010.06.20.13.45.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C1E7DEC.5090908@lerdorf.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:45:32 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100512 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lester Caine CC: PHP internals References: <4C1E784C.8010300@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C1E784C.8010300@lsces.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] APC in trunk From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) On 6/20/10 1:21 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > ( Foregot to change address again :( ) > Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: >> What are your views on including APC in the core, or reasons not to? > > Dictatorship? > Optional module which have well used alternatives should not be proced > on by default! Probably more people use alternatives and have for years? pecl has been around for years. Nobody else has submitted an opcode cache to pecl. We certainly would not have rejected any such submission, and we still won't. -Rasmus