Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:48855 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20880 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2010 20:39:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Jun 2010 20:39:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 188.40.37.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 188.40.37.16 hq1.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [188.40.37.16] ([188.40.37.16:59716] helo=hq1.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 60/D0-15307-17C7E1C4 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 16:39:14 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFB2200C18D; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:39:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from hq1.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hq1.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dcRFAOD80-S2; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:39:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.20.2] (gprs11.swisscom-mobile.ch [193.247.250.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by hq1.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CC188200C187; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:39:16 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <4C1E784C.8010300@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:39:07 +0200 Cc: PHP internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <4C1E784C.8010300@lsces.co.uk> To: Lester Caine X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] APC in trunk From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 20.06.2010, at 22:21, Lester Caine wrote: > ( Foregot to change address again :( ) > Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: >> What are your views on including APC in the core, or reasons not to? >=20 > Dictatorship? > Optional module which have well used alternatives should not be proced = on by default! Probably more people use alternatives and have for years? probably not actually .. my guess is that the vast majority of users do = not use any byte code cache today. this could be our effort to reduce = co2 emissions world wide. +1 on adding apc to trunk +0 about enabling apc by default .. or rather undecided at this point. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org