Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:48839 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 56853 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2010 13:23:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jun 2010 13:23:37 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kalle.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kalle.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 72.14.220.157 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 72.14.220.157 fg-out-1718.google.com Received: from [72.14.220.157] ([72.14.220.157:34844] helo=fg-out-1718.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A3/E8-21297-8D4CC1C4 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:23:37 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so526754fge.11 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 06:23:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SNoHE7V1TM8VdmTOBg0ZPlMfl79YktDFddzVMkzrYHQ=; b=OOMRHr42BLZiBQOQlUcw6kELgMqPQEsQhNUn9sw71uDNieWPumB4CbytButrjRtJdH +JXxhNfyJLIhm/2wR+KLt5kXFCtDSN3EV1PMH/kxgWw7SZNSLDC+0ec9s48CGxuXw53K kG1rQQkIFtOEtaLooD3a6DUD3m2R5gtc3CR88= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=CirFEYuaT7mMhZTJeU47qv7ZK7gqz8CvoQ2ikZTSQBrwl7lBCKca3DDoUNW5ebqpeq 8w2KjSeMqXnGTGnwfarFbGe3JhZcPwAkgW4NqKVL4XLw0rbrFeYGBZfQGxDgVP3UjaGF +ncOe9N4H+3/CTSabvI2ht+aBBm0EJAyRbajU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.87.49.36 with SMTP id b36mr4091191fgk.57.1276953813160; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 06:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com Received: by 10.86.92.12 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 06:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 15:23:33 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: IUAWlaq5UCCBpQbAEjm_C5Mtbik Message-ID: To: Internals , Brian Shire , G0pz , Rasmus Lerdorf , Derick Rethans Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: APC in trunk From: kalle@php.net (Kalle Sommer Nielsen) Greetings As the process for trunk grows, I think we should consider which extensions we will move in and out of the core, this thread however is solely about moving APC into the core. As original proposed and agreed on the PDM in Paris, was to include APC in PHP6, and not turn it on by default. I think it will benefit both us and the community if we move APC into the core (trunk, 5.4). APC is one of the most popular extensions at PECL and many core devs also work on APC. Currently the only issue I see by putting APC into the core is the CS, as APC uses spaces instead of tabs. Another thing we might want to look at is whether we should support 5.2, or simply upgrade APC's version and break backwards compatibility so we don't have a layer of checks for macros that wasn't available in previous version, perhaps only require 5.3+ within the APC code, this however is not really a question of including APC in the core, but rather a per extension discussion ;-) What are your views on including APC in the core, or reasons not to? -- regards, Kalle Sommer Nielsen kalle@php.net