Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:48414 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10449 invoked from network); 23 May 2010 20:33:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 May 2010 20:33:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ekneuss@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ekneuss@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ekneuss@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.42 mail-bw0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.42] ([209.85.214.42:60900] helo=mail-bw0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9D/34-21629-A1199FB4 for ; Sun, 23 May 2010 16:33:31 -0400 Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so158627bwz.29 for ; Sun, 23 May 2010 13:33:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kCoSas7wNRrTtrKiUG2FSE9iZMUeBZyRhWTFRdFjb3M=; b=NlKiGkCtLe0y+0azkRdN0EmZI36keH2Te6iAbVh2rDeiYCDuk3uDgGmumfb98bjM83 bkENwmwzepZ5UXpn1FkiqXpL1+iry9G2wd8ylOsP69Ns04lKmPynyQLqgz/AzmTnJdJF DtZZIeErHE4BM23g9svChdVvgli3Y2RVfLc7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=H+xlQUvqLA5NbrQwQg95HWtXCzeYQSKlyBB/cT4zcmeLjrO0XInssKNbJ6WoJryYV2 ttGgKg/F5upSF5xytalvnmFno6mRlkWXNmmfPVIL6D3ly7fuiGX4WMggprPbvWghLzO2 iiN2pyRty+V9rj+bKe1FrHJ7iCBQyR8hSSjt8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.154.220 with SMTP id p28mr1698633bkw.190.1274646806701; Sun, 23 May 2010 13:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: ekneuss@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.115.195 with HTTP; Sun, 23 May 2010 13:33:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20100522175819.0a601c68@zend.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20100522175819.0a601c68@zend.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 22:33:26 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: zR-YBq773_vLem0oTdPXGNIe-4o Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Type hinting From: colder@php.net (Etienne Kneuss) Hello, On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 17:04, Zeev Suraski wrote: > All, > > As I mentioned numerous times scalar type hinting is a very controversial > feature in my mind and requires some substantial discussion before we move > ahead to implement it. > As such, I think we should revert the patch that was committed to trunk and > move to discuss it first instead. > > My (& Lukas') thoughts on the subject are detailed at > http://wiki.php.net/rfc/typecheckingstrictandweak > > As one of the key people who designed PHP's type system I consider strict > type checks completely alien to and counterintuitive in PHP and am therefore > pushing to implement 'weak' typing instead, in a way that's consistent and > familiar to users. -1, this table is very counter intuitive and is definitely not consistent with the rest of PHP. Either make it strict or loose but not halfway and in a bizarre way. > > Zeev > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Etienne Kneuss http://www.colder.ch