Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:48233 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69514 invoked from network); 6 May 2010 12:43:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 May 2010 12:43:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 188.40.37.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 188.40.37.16 hq1.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [188.40.37.16] ([188.40.37.16:55647] helo=hq1.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 34/86-39159-C69B2EB4 for ; Thu, 06 May 2010 08:43:25 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B217200C18E; Thu, 6 May 2010 12:43:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from hq1.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hq1.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZmIh3OEdADH0; Thu, 6 May 2010 14:43:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.80.107] (77-58-249-88.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.58.249.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by hq1.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AD063200C187; Thu, 6 May 2010 14:43:16 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <4BB2DC2C.9020701@lerdorf.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 14:30:36 +0200 Cc: Philip Olson , internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE03F16456@us-ex1.zend.net> <8244EE68-21B6-41B3-B4A2-5AA7A6F2A794@pooteeweet.org> <4BABDCA2.8010107@oracle.com> <970168F8-D98F-413E-8BB5-AF8B538D7A88@pooteeweet.org> <4BAE1617.5040407@anderiasch.de> <20100328082228.GA2011@rangda.stickybit.se> <323C21DB-9883-4227-9458-2695756C4B78@roshambo.org> <4BB2DC2C.9020701@lerdorf.com> To: Rasmus Lerdorf X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] trunk is alive and open From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 31.03.2010, at 07:22, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > On 03/30/2010 08:41 PM, Philip Olson wrote: >>=20 >> It's awesome that PHP has so many great options for the next Release = Manager because all of the proposed people would do great. However, I'd = like to see Rasmus become RM. Not sure about the co-RM topic but Chris = Jones comes to mind. I love the way these two guys handle things, and it = feels like a nice balance. >>=20 >> And while Rasmus may [or may not] deny his BDFL status, I'd love to = see it in high gear especially now that he's funemployed. >=20 > I didn't actually volunteer. I think someone misunderstood that at = some > point. I'll do it if nobody else will, but both Derick and David seem > keen, and I think they should work it out between them. The whole > concept of a non-technical co-rm person, is kind of a moot point I > think. We all know that person is Lukas and he will do his thing > regardless. That's not a knock, by the way, we need a process guy to > offset my anti-process approach so that we can meet somewhere in the = middle. Just FYI: I will no longer serve as the "process guy", nor anything else really. = Feel free to remove my karma. I may write the occasional post here still = of course as I will continue to be a PHP end user. Context: I just feel that with the things I feel are right, I will just end up = being tied up in a perpetual battle. Over the years I got a few things = to go the way I wanted (wiki, a todo list, RFCs) but there are simply = some fundamental things where I am no longer motivated to work with the = status quo, but where I do not see a realistic chance if this ever = changing. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org