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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:05:03 +0200
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To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=F4me_Loyet?= <jerome@loyet.net>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] trunk is alive and open
From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith)


On 29.04.2010, at 08:38, J=E9r=F4me Loyet wrote:

> 2010/4/29 Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com>:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Johannes Schl=FCter [mailto:johannes@schlueters.de]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:40 AM
>>> To: Pierre Joye
>>> Cc: Gwynne Raskind; Ilia Alshanetsky; Kalle Sommer Nielsen; Lukas =
Kahwe
>>> Smith; Andi Gutmans; Derick Rethans; PHP Developers Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] trunk is alive and open
>>>=20
>>> On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 17:46 +0200, Pierre Joye wrote:
>>>> Before even thinking about a planning, we have to define what we =
want
>>>> in and how we go further.
>>>=20
>>> ACK, I think it makes sense to define some "key features" we want =
for the next
>>> release (traits seem to be one). An issue with 5.3 was that whenever =
really
>>> defined that but only said "let's backport from 6 and add all stuff =
coming in". I
>>> think it makes sense to define a set of key features (traits, what =
else?) and once
>>> these are implemented in an accepted way (not meaning "stable" but =
having an
>>> accepted design) make a release branch (either by branching of or =
locking trunk
>>> for "bigger"
>>> features or whatever) where stability of this is improved else we =
end up adding
>>> feature after feature and introducing problem after problem.
>>=20
>> As I've mentioned in the past I think we are better off with shorter =
release cycles and less features per cycle. Reduces risk and enables us =
to push out value faster. For example, we have made (and are still =
making) significant performance enhancements to the runtime. It'd be a =
shame if that waited until Q4 for alpha. I think with traits, =
performance enhancements and a few additional changes we already have a =
pretty substantial version.
>>=20
>=20
> +1


+1

regards,
Lukas Kahwe Smith
mls@pooteeweet.org