Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:48129 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 87402 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2010 22:23:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Apr 2010 22:23:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sylvain@abstraction.fr; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php-php-dev@m.gmane.org; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain m.gmane.org designates 80.91.229.12 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php-php-dev@m.gmane.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 80.91.229.12 lo.gmane.org Linux 2.6 Received: from [80.91.229.12] ([80.91.229.12:47369] helo=lo.gmane.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 13/85-60458-B75B8DB4 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:23:56 -0400 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7Ffa-0003Bs-Og for internals@lists.php.net; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:23:50 +0200 Received: from smj33-1-82-233-66-33.fbx.proxad.net ([82.233.66.33]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:23:50 +0200 Received: from sylvain by smj33-1-82-233-66-33.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:23:50 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: internals@lists.php.net connect(): No such file or directory Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:23:35 +0200 Lines: 79 Message-ID: <1272493415.3021.75.camel@kheops> References: <1272491141.3021.59.camel@kheops> Reply-To: sylvain@abstraction.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-JXJhJLjctlgTVf6f4ECf" X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: smj33-1-82-233-66-33.fbx.proxad.net In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] backslash, really ... ? From: sylvain@abstraction.fr (Sylvain Rabot) --=-JXJhJLjctlgTVf6f4ECf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 16:58 -0500, Matt Wilson wrote: > So, you decided to jump in to criticize a design decision that went in af= ter several months of discussion, without any insight into why it was done = the way it was? >=20 Not really criticizing, maybe a bit, but more expressing my disappointment regarding aesthetic loss that the choice made has lead to. It might not concern you but it does concern me and probably other people too. I admit I have no knowledge of what have been told during the months of discussion you are referring to. However, you seem to have this knowledge, so I would be grateful if you could tell me if the aesthetic of the backslash token has been discussed and even more if you can redirect me to a discussion thread. Regards. > On Apr 28, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Sylvain Rabot wrote: >=20 > > Hi, > >=20 > > The comment I'm about to make is behind the times, and, now, useless, I > > know, but I can't hold me. > >=20 > > You chose for the namespace feature, a great feature besides, the > > backslash ?? really ?? Come on guys, among all the possibilities, you > > have chosen, according to me, the most hideous character possible. > >=20 > > Having Windows=C2=A9=C2=AE=E2=84=A2 path like strings in the middle of = source code is not > > something that is going to make me use the feature. > >=20 > > PHP syntax was simple, clean. To me, the backslash token ruins > > everything. Using it aside from escaping was something I have never > > considered, have you ? Do you like it ? > >=20 > > The goal of backslash was maybe to highlight namespace in the source > > code, if it was, congrats, we only see that now. > > To my opinion it breaks all esthetic's balance of a source code. > >=20 > > No need to respond that I should have contribute to the choice, believe > > me, if I could have, I would have. > >=20 > > This was just the comment of a simple guy which is very concerned about > > source code esthetic's and believes that a neat, well balanced code is > > more likely to be well maintained that any other one. > >=20 > > Best regards. > >=20 > > --=20 > > Sylvain Rabot >=20 >=20 --=20 Sylvain Rabot --=-JXJhJLjctlgTVf6f4ECf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkvYtWIACgkQ+TklUoyVcyfJTwCbB125+skDry2eEk/kQtN8o5Ux M1sAmwfNjSVg858gbW2kPEdVq2TdsWZa =lKXq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-JXJhJLjctlgTVf6f4ECf--