Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47992 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 43619 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2010 10:24:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Apr 2010 10:24:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.218.219 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.218.219 mail-bw0-f219.google.com Received: from [209.85.218.219] ([209.85.218.219:44922] helo=mail-bw0-f219.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 97/90-39182-2CA38CB4 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 06:24:04 -0400 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so60902bwz.1 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 03:23:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=C4BCEbiwEfN2x8vjEWEgf0TdEwD65vpBhT/zKZof0Bc=; b=LsV3ogHGO3jsWZ7OTp+2UkELGPmA2zn2T1m3usLr1tzik7eV2zeKUX8Ae2VWgBASJ/ DkZP3X9TjnkayOoUTs5tPazwZh6a7JLHbzazK+5WkN55Ba6lswsvtrlmxdS5xPlrkIkd p6qHi/BaFfXtOPihuF4YwHXLFxsbPBnTnSiUs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=syYaUR0pDu+1RpnK5YhfHjqcMl5T/Vpktr4QUcLNoOEVM2iYr+F9ijZO9tXhr65dw4 o6oQBiiq3BZvFJyEVjyJResTOz/xKybvH/m7YWI5ynsqB0MSnKFM3H/W/fI8/V4rQCoB tsGwyrHpcksjiCVpOQzwmX5hYoFVtLn5h1tlc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.123.20 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 03:23:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1271408519.4615.89.camel@guybrush> References: <1271371883.4615.55.camel@guybrush> <1271408519.4615.89.camel@guybrush> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:23:42 +0200 Received: by 10.204.126.130 with SMTP id c2mr1514761bks.155.1271413422876; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 03:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Johannes_Schl=C3=BCter?= Cc: Arvids Godjuks , Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d58b286ee8be04845801f3 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) --0016e6d58b286ee8be04845801f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/4/16 Johannes Schl=C3=BCter > On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 11:43 +0300, Arvids Godjuks wrote: > > You must have been flying somethere in the Andromeda galaxy all this > time! > > > > magic_quotes, safe_mode and other stuff was announced depricated now fo= r > a > > few years, there is big buzz going on about it and these features are > > allready marked as depricated and throw warnings as of 5.3, some even a= s > off > > 5.2. It's hard to miss articles, announce, conferences and numerous blo= g > > entries literally from any PHP developer who has a blog that these > features > > are to be droped. > > Go to a random hosting site and look at there configuration - magic > quotes will be enabled. Look at some (not all) distributor packages - > magic quotes will be on. Many of them won't see it as it's "hidden" in > an error log which barely anybody read. Yes you do. You also read this > list. But that's a minority of our users. Most don't follow the > development closely. Most don't read blogs. Most don't know about > php.ini. Most don't know about security. > > The people we interact with are just the tip of the iceberg. Most PHP > users are hidden on the internet. > > I would love to get rid of this "feature" but I fear that many users > won't notice and i don't know how to tell them. > > johannes > > I think that the hosting providers will do notice, and either not migrate, or send a mail to their users, warning to check their settings because if they are depending on the magic quotes, they will be in danger. So I think we don't have to wait for the shared hosting providers, because they will catch up as slow or fast as we go. Plus we don't know what will be the next version, so go ahead, commit into the trunk, and when the release is coming, it will be decided whether or no= t include this into it. Tyrael --0016e6d58b286ee8be04845801f3--