Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47991 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 32348 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2010 09:02:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Apr 2010 09:02:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 83.243.58.134 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 83.243.58.134 mailout2.netbeat.de Linux 2.6 Received: from [83.243.58.134] ([83.243.58.134:51812] helo=mailout2.netbeat.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C9/D2-10748-B8728CB4 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 05:02:06 -0400 Received: (qmail 27705 invoked by uid 89); 16 Apr 2010 08:59:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.31?) (postmaster%schlueters.de@93.104.52.187) by mailout2.netbeat.de with ESMTPA; 16 Apr 2010 08:59:33 -0000 X-Originator: 9e51b244e0a38413ab6a9876e36ba9df To: Arvids Godjuks Cc: Internals In-Reply-To: References: <1271371883.4615.55.camel@guybrush> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: php.net Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:01:59 +0200 Message-ID: <1271408519.4615.89.camel@guybrush> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features From: johannes@php.net (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 11:43 +0300, Arvids Godjuks wrote: > You must have been flying somethere in the Andromeda galaxy all this time! > > magic_quotes, safe_mode and other stuff was announced depricated now for a > few years, there is big buzz going on about it and these features are > allready marked as depricated and throw warnings as of 5.3, some even as off > 5.2. It's hard to miss articles, announce, conferences and numerous blog > entries literally from any PHP developer who has a blog that these features > are to be droped. Go to a random hosting site and look at there configuration - magic quotes will be enabled. Look at some (not all) distributor packages - magic quotes will be on. Many of them won't see it as it's "hidden" in an error log which barely anybody read. Yes you do. You also read this list. But that's a minority of our users. Most don't follow the development closely. Most don't read blogs. Most don't know about php.ini. Most don't know about security. The people we interact with are just the tip of the iceberg. Most PHP users are hidden on the internet. I would love to get rid of this "feature" but I fear that many users won't notice and i don't know how to tell them. johannes