Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47620 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 58414 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2010 20:43:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Mar 2010 20:43:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mike503@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mike503@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.223.178 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mike503@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.178 mail-iw0-f178.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.178] ([209.85.223.178:36324] helo=mail-iw0-f178.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F3/49-11385-3FACBAB4 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:43:32 -0500 Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so3348023iwn.16 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:43:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=c9Kz7uvI6tatUqvETwCg1RYcnwXU7l5ruxs/0mGf+r0=; b=wz8gw/ClDb0jExQeg7ucfu+ON+G12UlQJws2P7pOy5R6vr+9WYt4SVrUDxN9f1hS/P mMPCuU45DScRgN9W+p0hi3HwBwFksUil5ZBjQpEma5/zBG0gdVTXG5HDaPzRcvKwpdYf Krkk0+MElsySzy+2GbX1DZAvDZgjMtFcJpgdo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=D6XuPF2lu4qnZcj+gUdKk/MfIRS/Iljx2CBiiWyhhhY5Tl9z6aKaZs1gAgsfwDQkHY u8suN6WYMhCwezYkFENxzKaG0Dya79lTGYDp+HBWz5zSF0hvdwsxC7jPdPxwEd53h48G ZgS+dQPzTJ7n/54wVB6XSbfdvJCkozPQJuReY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.145.5 with SMTP id b5mr824521ibv.70.1269549809353; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:43:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BABBDD1.9050306@daylessday.org> References: <4BA8EF6F.8010503@daylessday.org> <7.0.1.0.2.20100324000837.13ff3080@zend.com> <4BA9CB98.6080102@daylessday.org> <7.0.1.0.2.20100324102437.0b491a68@zend.com> <4BA9D167.30006@daylessday.org> <99cf22521003240334y6fb76fbcs4347429f3be48d49@mail.gmail.com> <3bea96c41003250709jd391239te35ab88b46e4803e@mail.gmail.com> <4BABBDD1.9050306@daylessday.org> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:43:29 -0700 Message-ID: To: Antony Dovgal Cc: php-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] FPM RFC From: mike503@gmail.com (Michael Shadle) On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Antony Dovgal wrote: > You can as well stop declaring (!?) what FPM should and what it shoud not > and start doing something useful instead. > Writing some code might be a good start for you. As someone Andrei somewhat entrusted to try to keep the dream of FPM alive, I'll Also, I am an avid user and spokesperson for FPM. I don't write C, and I wouldn't attempt to write C for something as important as a daemon that supports heavily loaded websites (furthermore, why would you want me to start there) - I contribute any way I can, which has included [a little] money [and offers of more, but nobody has accepted], time, and support. I've offered different build environments (if we had any need for automated testing) I have a lot of resources available, just not coding. I'll ignore your elitist comment. RFCs should be open for anyone, as should discussions, and I am not "declaring" what it should do any more than anyone else with any ideas. If you want a "coders only" thing maybe this open source project should be taken behind closed doors and only those people who have proven themselves worthy of commenting on anything (who cares about the users? they're only the majority of the open source world) can be allowed to participate. Also I don't remember "declaring" anything. My comments about includes are the same kind of thing -anyone- can interject. I guess I just don't have enough "karma" to be valued in your world. I have done nothing but be appreciative and respectful of you, and always take your opinion as more informed as mine.