Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47583 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 66170 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2010 20:41:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Mar 2010 20:41:22 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 188.40.37.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 188.40.37.16 hq1.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [188.40.37.16] ([188.40.37.16:34248] helo=hq1.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 00/13-15489-1F87AAB4 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:41:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9782E30006; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:41:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from hq1.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hq1.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aSCm760lxUS4; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:41:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (217-162-131-234.dclient.hispeed.ch [217.162.131.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by hq1.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E97432E30004; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:41:15 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <7f3ed2c31003241326s298cf2a4r19ec7746c4645cc8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:41:16 +0100 Cc: PHP Developers Mailing List , Michael Wallner , Jani Taskinen Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <6478E1F4-8DFD-4D7E-A83C-8014A1411D26@pooteeweet.org> References: <3EC72D91-EA33-4175-B9F5-E1A61757916B@pooteeweet.org> <7f3ed2c31003241310nad662e1uad7d5bbe8f985e5@mail.gmail.com> <7f3ed2c31003241326s298cf2a4r19ec7746c4645cc8@mail.gmail.com> To: Hannes Magnusson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Output buffering patch From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 24.03.2010, at 21:26, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 21:12, Lukas Kahwe Smith = wrote: >>=20 >> On 24.03.2010, at 21:10, Hannes Magnusson wrote: >>=20 >>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:54, Lukas Kahwe Smith = wrote: >>>> Hey, >>>>=20 >>>> Could one of you write up a short RFC on this patch? Just some = details about the bugs fixed, known BC breaks and (undocumented) edge = case changes. This would be helpful for anyone wanting to review their = code and testing as well as documentation. >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> I really do not see why this even needs a discussion. Its been in >>> trunk for years already. People have had plenty of time to give >>> feedback. >>>=20 >>> Is there really anyone who doesn't want this committed? For what = reason? >>=20 >>=20 >> This isnt about getting a reason not to commit this. As you can see = in the above quoted mail from me, I was asking for this RFC for various = other reasons. >>=20 >=20 > Search the archives. Do your homework. >=20 > 3 years and 9 months ago the patch was posted to internals for review. > It included README files, TODO list, tests, tests, tests and = explanations. > Few weeks later it got committed. > The commit got reviewed by various parties and some enhancements were = made. > Every single procedure was followed to the letter. > People were happy. >=20 > You cannot seriously be expecting more then that, nearly 4years later? All I am asking is a single document in the central location we have = dedicated for this (aka the rfc namespace on the wiki), that pulls = together all relevant documentation. If all that is needed is a copy = paste of a bunch of URL's all the better. But it makes no sense to ask = each and every developer to "do his homework". Thats a waste of time and = a sure way to have misunderstandings. Seems like you know all there is to know about this, so how about just = throwing together an RFC, shouldnt take more than 10 minutes if all of = this is already perfectly documented. > Some links to get you started: > = http://php.markmail.org/message/ujx2htvdzerrxgfe?q=3DREADME.NEW-OUTPUT-API= +from:%22Michael+Wallner%22+order:date-forward > = http://php.markmail.org/message/n22c6ye5boe2rtjk?q=3DREADME.NEW-OUTPUT-API= +from:%22Michael+Wallner%22+order:date-forward&page=3D1 > = http://php.markmail.org/message/jgsd2umnm5lk37b6?q=3DREADME.NEW-OUTPUT-API= +from:%22Michael+Wallner%22+order:date-forward&page=3D1 These links just highlight that there are questions, not that there are = answers. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org