Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47548 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38100 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2010 08:29:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Mar 2010 08:29:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.185 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.185 il-mr1.zend.com Received: from [212.25.124.185] ([212.25.124.185:43735] helo=il-mr1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 25/F1-28024-67DC9AB4 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 03:29:51 -0500 Received: from il-gw1.zend.com (unknown [10.1.1.21]) by il-mr1.zend.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4CA504CB; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:09:55 +0200 (IST) Received: from LAP-ZEEV.zend.com ([10.1.2.209]) by il-gw1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:29:35 +0200 Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20100324102437.0b491a68@zend.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:29:34 +0200 To: "Antony Dovgal" Cc: "Derick Rethans" ,"php-dev" In-Reply-To: <4BA9CB98.6080102@daylessday.org> References: <4BA8EF6F.8010503@daylessday.org> <4BA8F72E.5090701@sci.fi> <4BA8F985.1090109@daylessday.org> <4BA919D2.3060605@daylessday.org> <7.0.1.0.2.20100323222839.12d7b088@zend.com> <3bea96c41003231344l20e6c64ewad7715bebc2f773f@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20100323225305.12e71c38@zend.com> <4BA92B72.1050207@daylessday.org> <7.0.1.0.2.20100323230046.12e71d80@zend.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20100324000837.13ff3080@zend.com> <4BA9CB98.6080102@daylessday.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2010 08:29:35.0521 (UTC) FILETIME=[22BBC110:01CACB2C] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] FPM RFC From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) At 10:21 24/03/2010, Antony Dovgal wrote: >On 24.03.2010 01:16, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > For me it is a requirement before the code makes it into a released > > version of PHP, and I think many others think that way if past > > discussions are any indication. That's what RFCs are for - if people > > can just go ahead and implement their original thoughts without > > paying attention to feedback, why bother? > > Personally I think that the person pushing the code should be > > responsible for implementing the feedback to the RFC (or getting > > others to do it). > >I think you're missing something. > >I don't care if FPM is in or out of the core. FWIW, I don't think it's a good start for a component that goes into our distribution. In this case I'm willing to take responsibility for doing the conversion, but for the record, if someone proposes to put a component into the PHP distro and refuses to implement the feedback (not every last piece of anecdotal feedback, but the key points) because it's not important enough in his view, I do think it should preclude the component from being accepted. We have the RFC process for a reason. Zeev