Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47520 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 59660 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2010 22:01:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Mar 2010 22:01:39 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=derick@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=derick@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 82.113.146.227 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: derick@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.113.146.227 xdebug.org Linux 2.6 Received: from [82.113.146.227] ([82.113.146.227:45731] helo=xdebug.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5B/21-51225-E3A39AB4 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:01:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (xdebug.org [127.0.0.1]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AE95DF36F; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:01:31 +0000 (GMT) X-X-Sender: derick@kossu.derickrethans.nl To: Zeev Suraski cc: Antony Dovgal , php-dev In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20100323230046.12e71d80@zend.com> Message-ID: References: <4BA8EF6F.8010503@daylessday.org> <4BA8F72E.5090701@sci.fi> <4BA8F985.1090109@daylessday.org> <4BA919D2.3060605@daylessday.org> <7.0.1.0.2.20100323222839.12d7b088@zend.com> <3bea96c41003231344l20e6c64ewad7715bebc2f773f@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20100323225305.12e71c38@zend.com> <4BA92B72.1050207@daylessday.org> <7.0.1.0.2.20100323230046.12e71d80@zend.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323329-1504051800-1269381526=:4153" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] FPM RFC From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) --8323329-1504051800-1269381526=:4153 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Tue, 23 Mar 2010, Zeev Suraski wrote: > At 22:58 23/03/2010, Antony Dovgal wrote: >=20 > > On 03/23/2010 11:54 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > At 22:44 23/03/2010, J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Loyet wrote: > > >>In fact with INI syntax, there is a serious missing cause there is no > > >>include system shiped with. And with FPM as there is potentialy many > > >>"vhosts", it's necessary to have an include system to feet all system > > >>administrator needs. > > > > > > We were talking about the syntax, not actually using php.ini or=20 > > > PHP's INI subsystem. You can use the ini parser to implement=20 > > > includes without a problem. > >=20 > > The point is the XML syntax is already there and it's working fine,=20 > > thank you. No need to implement something on top of something that=20 > > wasn't supposed to be used this way. >=20 > You can't end discussions like that. The XML syntax may be there, but=20 > the FPM extension isn't a part of PHP, and I think what you're hearing=20 > is that in order to make it a part of PHP, it needs to conform to the=20 > way we do things in PHP - which does not involve XML configuration=20 > files. I don't see how this actually matters. None of the other SAPIs are=20 configured with a php.ini syntax. That includes IIS, Apache, Lighttpd=20 and others. This is more of a webserver thing than a "PHP thing" so I=20 don't see how it is relevant to require php.ini syntax if this XML=20 configure file works just fine already. I mean, it'd be *nice* to have a=20 non-XML syntax, but for me this is definitely not a requirement for FPM=20 to be added to trunk. If you (or somebody else) wants a php.ini syntax=20 for it, a patch can be written. It's Open Source after all. with kind regards, Derick --=20 http://derickrethans.nl | http://xdebug.org Like Xdebug? Consider a donation: http://xdebug.org/donate.php twitter: @derickr and @xdebug --8323329-1504051800-1269381526=:4153--