Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47489 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 85711 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2010 16:59:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Mar 2010 16:59:27 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 74.125.78.27 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.78.27 ey-out-2122.google.com Received: from [74.125.78.27] ([74.125.78.27:3157] helo=ey-out-2122.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AA/43-03444-E63F8AB4 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:59:27 -0500 Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id d26so522792eyd.39 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.21.13 with SMTP id y13mr2530499mui.15.1269363563109; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.200.22] (c-98-234-184-167.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [98.234.184.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u9sm5765535muf.6.2010.03.23.09.59.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4BA8F365.3010205@lerdorf.com> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:59:17 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10pre) Gecko/20100321 Shredder/3.0.5pre MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lukas Kahwe Smith CC: Pierre Joye , Derick Rethans , PHP Developers Mailing List References: <4BA8EA9C.7030307@lerdorf.com> <5AD071B3-2A67-4856-8784-34B47A4E56EA@pooteeweet.org> In-Reply-To: <5AD071B3-2A67-4856-8784-34B47A4E56EA@pooteeweet.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] trunk is alive and open From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) On 03/23/2010 09:36 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > > On 23.03.2010, at 17:21, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > >> On 03/23/2010 09:11 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: >>> hi, >>> >>> I would rather have some kind of rules defined before opening trunk >>> again (or the pandora box). That's what we are discussing right now. >>> May I know why you choosed that now is the right time to do it and >>> declare it open? >> >> We have rules. Large features, write an RFC and we discuss it. Small >> and obvious improvements follow commit-then-review as before. We don't >> need more complicated rules than that. > > > Yeah, but I still think it would be a good idea to figure out lets say 3-5 big time features that we focus on for the next release and a rough timeline for the next release. > > For example next major release Q2/Q3 2011: > - traits > - bundling APC > - large file and big number support > - ob patch > - unicode improvements (*) > > (*) lets see what ideas we come up with, might turn out to be the big thing or maybe just a small incremental tweak here and there We don't need timelines right now. What we need is some hacking time and to bring some fun back into PHP development. It hasn't been fun for quite a while. Once we have a body of new interesting stuff, we can start pondering releases with a release branch off of trunk that might cherry-pick a subset of the work in trunk and you can start making your lists and setting timelines at that point. -Rasmus