Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47484 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 76124 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2010 16:38:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Mar 2010 16:38:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 209.85.219.220 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.219.220 mail-ew0-f220.google.com Received: from [209.85.219.220] ([209.85.219.220:46178] helo=mail-ew0-f220.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 67/41-03444-78EE8AB4 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:38:31 -0500 Received: by ewy20 with SMTP id 20so379747ewy.1 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.78.10 with SMTP id f10mr1502887mul.126.1269362308231; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.200.22] (c-98-234-184-167.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [98.234.184.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y37sm6802571mug.52.2010.03.23.09.38.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4BA8EE7E.4060206@lerdorf.com> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:38:22 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10pre) Gecko/20100321 Shredder/3.0.5pre MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre Joye CC: Derick Rethans , PHP Developers Mailing List References: <4BA8EA9C.7030307@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] trunk is alive and open From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) On 03/23/2010 09:32 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >> On 03/23/2010 09:11 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: >>> hi, >>> >>> I would rather have some kind of rules defined before opening trunk >>> again (or the pandora box). That's what we are discussing right now. >>> May I know why you choosed that now is the right time to do it and >>> declare it open? >> >> We have rules. Large features, write an RFC and we discuss it. Small >> and obvious improvements follow commit-then-review as before. We don't >> need more complicated rules than that. > > Right, but what I mean was about releases. But it seems that it is > what Derick meant too. trunk remains trunk (development), not a > release branch for a hypothetic version. > > How the next version will be done and when is another discussion. And > I tend to agree with you about complex processes. However we do need > to drastically improve the way we do or plan releases. It can be done > without affecting the way we work, only the way we release and the > releases frequency. Releases have nothing to do with this. trunk is where new development happens. Which parts end up in which releases is completely separate from this. Things may be backported to 5.3, or we do a 5.4 release branch off of trunk at some point, or we charge ahead and do a full 6.0 off of trunk. We won't know that until we get some work done in trunk, and the first step is to have an open trunk. -Rasmus