Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47459 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64242 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2010 16:23:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Mar 2010 16:23:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ekneuss@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ekneuss@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.218.216 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ekneuss@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.218.216 mail-bw0-f216.google.com Received: from [209.85.218.216] ([209.85.218.216:45994] helo=mail-bw0-f216.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 31/50-62332-79997AB4 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:23:52 -0500 Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so325387bwz.23 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:23:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=d8BoQS/QCznQ++YWk8o1wFnR1Yl1jGMaQkOWGpZgpAA=; b=IEBQe7956uKFU7R2GCLh0R5d/0w1kkzXc2o2pwKCSjYDUPRYcWRZHhhkmgSi6rlSd4 YwHlYvzmfZJcN7a7SIXIgW4nI35qYE2QL25D149LTuyG07vBwK1okAY5qlgKzg8lzoak DIblgfu708T88DuOHsl5XTBTqWo5oN8BaFPUQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=uZXe66QbvGalv9qmJrobYIgptqPwGBL1WBxF9fMHXFlHMG7+d+XGcNjVPMyJh60tH8 9hIPr7Dxa8M6BtOKyeAZNktss/A5sowLaXnyZCvstwrRfONJR7TuDfxY2auqrI91BB4Q o1XuGJOxQZCkK0cAHWUYjkMGXuk5CbhEtsbJ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ekneuss@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.133.27 with SMTP id d27mr4641760bkt.51.1269275028447; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:23:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BA796EE.2070105@easyflirt.com> References: <4BA0DF61.1010907@easyflirt.com> <4BA1DB19.1080608@easyflirt.com> <660eb66f1003180224g5662ba1dtb123c3ee88a3a3e5@mail.gmail.com> <4BA25919.8090805@easyflirt.com> <4BA37E11.9080403@gmail.com> <4BA3A147.2020506@easyflirt.com> <660eb66f1003190921g56d47d2cq2c8739433b55f890@mail.gmail.com> <4BA796EE.2070105@easyflirt.com> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:23:48 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7e2df49adfb2c4b1 Message-ID: To: "mathieu.suen" Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Assign array with __get From: colder@php.net (Etienne Kneuss) On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 5:12 PM, mathieu.suen wrote: > You are right I am using the wrong language but i can't help. > Is not me who make the decision. So for want of anything better, > why not try to improve the tool. Improve it how exactly? I can't see how one can improve this part while keeping it consistent and/or backward compatible. > > Peter Lind wrote: >> >> Have you considered that perhaps you're trying to use the wrong >> language for what you're doing? PHP does what it does now consistently >> (in this regard) - what you're suggesting breaks that consistency. To >> gain what, exactly? >> >> On 19 March 2010 17:07, mathieu.suen wrote: >> >>> >>> Right I could work around the issue with the return by reference without >>> any >>> problem. >>> I am still thinking that if you try to write a meta-circular interpreter >>> you >>> gonna work very hard >>> to make this subtleties worked. And according to "Shriram Krishnamurthi" >>> in >>> his textbook PLAI: >>> >>> " a truly powerful language is one that makes it easy to write its >>> meta-circular interpreter." >>> >>> -- Mathieu Suen >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > -- Mathieu Suen > > > > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Etienne Kneuss http://www.colder.ch