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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.4 branch and trunk
From: pasthelod@gmail.com (Pas)

On 2010.03.19. 19:50, larry@garfieldtech.com wrote:
> On 3/19/10 1:31 PM, Nate Abele wrote:
>>> The point is that, for instance, PHP 5.3 was not a trivial upgrade
>>> for coders or hosters. Sure it's mostly compatible, and you certainly
>>> can write code that works from 5.0->5.3 just fine, and if not then
>>> you're probably doing something wrong... but that's most of the PHP
>>> code out there right now. :-) And naturally you can't test your code
>>> against 5.3 until it's out.
>>
>> Larry, to mitigate this issue, please refer to the exhaustive list of
>> instructions here:
>>
>> http://twitter.com/nateabele/status/10733251789
>>
>> PLEASE NOTE: This also applies to user-land applications with test
>> suites (and here I'm risking showing my ignorance by blindly assuming
>> Drupal does, in fact, have a test suite).
>>
>> Please see http://snaps.php.net/ and http://qa.php.net/ for more
>> information.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> - Nate
>
> Drupal 7 has an extensive test suite, using our own testing framework
> rather than phpt. (Let's not get into a debate about why that's the
> case; it's neither here nor there nor would I even be on just one side
> of it. <g>)
>
> But that's for a high-end project. It doesn't really help the code
> slingers that happen to have code they threw together that is holding
> back a hosting company who don't even know what "make" is.
>
> I am not saying people shouldn't be testing code. I'm saying the barrier
> to entry to testing common code found in the wild on a new release of
> PHP is higher than you seem to be assuming.
>
> --Larry Garfield
>

I think this has something to do with a large part of PHP developers 
living in a Windows world, where aren't any good test suites (let alone 
make).

PHPUnit is wonderful; installing it is not exactly that enjoyable. 
Particularly nasty part is getting a working PEAR system on Windows. 
(Just think of the BAT/CMD scripts :| )

--
Pas