Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47415 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 85139 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2010 20:50:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Mar 2010 20:50:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 188.40.37.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 188.40.37.16 hq1.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [188.40.37.16] ([188.40.37.16:34423] helo=hq1.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 74/61-10074-40292AB4 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:50:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91AFE2E3000A; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:50:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from hq1.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hq1.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bDOY7SzdWJO6; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:50:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.158.26.30] (gprs33.swisscom-mobile.ch [193.247.250.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by hq1.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9A1A92E30004; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:50:07 +0100 (CET) References: <76412548-72DE-42D8-979D-9BD52AF754F8@pooteeweet.org> Message-ID: <042C5521-4AE9-477A-B182-31D5FFE08207@pooteeweet.org> To: David Soria Parra In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7E18) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7E18) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:50:05 +0100 Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.4 branch and trunk From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 18.03.2010, at 18:48, David Soria Parra wrote: > On 2010-03-18, Pierre Joye wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Derick Rethans >> wrote: >> >>> I do agree that we need to do major releases more often, but just >>> setting a time already feels wrong. It's still open source, so it's >>> ready when it is ready. That of course should not mean that we >>> should >>> keep on adding features endlessly. >> >> for releases, avoid commits rushes right before the freeze, etc. As >> I've been said before already, I'm all for a fixed release cycle, it >> is then much easier to define clear priorities and roadmaps. > > +1. i think having a fixed release cycle has nothing to do with > being opensource or not but with being more predictable for people > depending on release dates. right. and again i think i was quite explict in my original mail that common sense still applies. if we have a buggy release we will obviously not release it just because. as for having enough to actually warrant a release i do not ever remember a time where there werent atleast a handful feasible proposals in varying size on the table. regard Lukas