Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47282 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 78223 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2010 23:35:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Mar 2010 23:35:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=surfchen@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=surfchen@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.160.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: surfchen@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.42 mail-pw0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.42] ([209.85.160.42:62698] helo=mail-pw0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 80/92-07348-0D27D9B4 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:35:44 -0500 Received: by pwj8 with SMTP id 8so374203pwj.29 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:35:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VI/fRcfilkR+nu6bgulaY/FtqhEOB0eZ/uquvCZJYB0=; b=WFIAFxWvItJTn8GMOExuGkdnTy6tdmtdFH+xseNcBeBTk6U88CK4rqDxcp7PYFtNal AOzv6A2Q6N2fprl99Dr2v3w6aHZM3DGNlii17eUQTmobA8xfuAu+jV+AiQKVlEGuyVNP iUHTTovj2zuFFB/uM0FJrUn+NYThT/K18Ohs4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=YozFVQg0U9wepFSAUROCW8uHk8LcgQmO6Sk4vRo3EVz/J1tyQIOtg30/1YW4DO70lf jaf47UbhjZK9xeCLXijwDkZR3zXjMHP8LwTg1/hVt24FHQh8/neGz/Pr4ipOYAqAY5sF g5ziwfmKyfLjv7r8CbstowQAZGoQMzrdNLy20= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.27.35 with SMTP id e35mr838977wfj.283.1268609740992; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:35:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4B9926E8.4080202@lerdorf.com> <7f3ed2c31003120958w7bd41059o88869669c6f5b0d9@mail.gmail.com> <661d85d51003130107o7cf19012m7ce93f0147c7585a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:35:40 +0800 Message-ID: <661d85d51003141635j36db59c1rbf94b9a8d2f6ea04@mail.gmail.com> To: Pierre Joye Cc: Derick Rethans , Hannes Magnusson , Moriyoshi Koizumi , Rasmus Lerdorf , PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 From: surfchen@gmail.com (Chen Ze) On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Chen Ze wrote: >> I think unicode should only care for string handling. Formatting >> numbers should not be the thing that unicode cares. Unicode is a >> standard for text, not for text or number formatting. > > That's a totally wrong statement. Please read Unicode specs, there are > clear references to formatting as well as many other areas. It is > impossible to split the unicode scripts from the way we process or use > them (output, formatting, sorting, searching, conversions, etc.). > sorry, I am wrong. I was thinking number formatting, collation as a independent standard even many implementation(for example intl) are based on the unicode. But I still think we should implement unicode string handling and something like number formatting as independent interface. For internal unicode type for function name, class name or something others, since there is other mail talking about that, I will give my point there. > Cheers, > -- > Pierre > > @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org > -- aka Surf Chen http://chenze.name/