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To: Ferenc Kovacs X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: moving forward From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 14.03.2010, at 20:42, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > (g)it would be better for cherrypicking and handling multiple > development branches, but it the developers cant use it propery, the > its PITA. >=20 > Tyrael >=20 > On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Gwynne Raskind = wrote: >> On Mar 14, 2010, at 12:58 PM, David Soria Parra wrote: >>>> I would also like to bring up another point. Since we are now on = SVN (and there are nice bridges to DVCS for those that want to use = them), we can now also more easily enable developers to work on complex = or risky features in a branch instead of trunk. So for example if we = feel like it will take us too long to come up with a unicode plan, then = I would suggest to leave it out the next release and simply have the = people that have an idea for an approach create a branch and work things = out there. This way normal development in trunk can commence. >>> Yes experimental branching shouldn't be a problem. I persoanlly = would prefer if we just create php-src/experimental/ or = php-src/developer// for this purpuse to not clutter = branches/ with a million names. >>=20 >>=20 >> I'd actually like to bring up the question of going to DVCS for PHP. = I know I was a vocal advocate against it before, but I've learned a bit = since then. Anyone care to discuss? Oh no .. another dangerous topic. Again we have been there even before = the switch. The idea is to keep the centralized repo on svn, because the = masses know how it works, the tools are widely available and we have = plenty of experience among us in how to keep svn running. I see little = incentive to move the _central_ repo to a DVCS. Are the bridges to git, = mercurial, bzaar etc really so bad that this topic is worth discussing = (no sarcasm, honest question)?=20 regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org