Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47257 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 23689 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2010 10:18:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Mar 2010 10:18:09 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=webmaster@keryx.se; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=webmaster@keryx.se; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain keryx.se designates 208.69.121.33 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: webmaster@keryx.se X-Host-Fingerprint: 208.69.121.33 supavet.nexcess.net Received: from [208.69.121.33] ([208.69.121.33:40349] helo=supavet.nexcess.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D3/30-15916-DD7BC9B4 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 05:18:08 -0500 Received: (qmail 8243 invoked by uid 108); 14 Mar 2010 06:18:00 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO z61p.keryx.se) (gunther@keryx.se@90.228.192.235) by supavet.nexcess.net with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 14 Mar 2010 06:18:00 -0400 Message-ID: <4B9CB7D6.6060304@keryx.se> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:17:58 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100301 Fedora/3.0.3-1.fc12 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP Developers Mailing List References: <4B9BC369.6030404@keryx.se> <4B9BDA97.7010905@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: <4B9BDA97.7010905@lerdorf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Next major version must be 7 (Lessons learned from the ECMAScript committee) From: webmaster@keryx.se (Keryx Web) 2010-03-13 19:33, Rasmus Lerdorf skrev: > No, not ok. We will call the next release whatever we like. People who > have written books or articles about PHP 6 inferring they knew what the > final state of PHP 6 would be were misguided. We never got to the point > of a final feature set much less a release date. I think I made it clear I have no sympathy for the people responsible for those books. However, I have lots of sympathy for the *readers* of those books! And the readers of the PHP manual. And the readers of Andrei's slides and of various articles on the net. And I have lots of sympathy for everyone who will see such resources show up when they google for a solution to a problem. Maybe my words sounded a bit critical and unappreciative. That was not my intention. I have tons of respect for all of you who make PHP such a wonderful language to use and teach. I am not qualified to suggest specifics about the technical route forward and have therefore carefully avoided anything that looks like casting a vote about "5.4". If, however, skipping version 6 will lead to less confusion and reduce the amount of education needed about the changes in the language, why not chose the easier path? Or to put this differently: Of course the core contributors are at liberty to call the next major version 6, but I think there is wisdom in going straight to 7. -- Keryx Web (Lars Gunther) http://keryx.se/ http://twitter.com/itpastorn/ http://itpastorn.blogspot.com/