Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47248 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 43105 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2010 22:12:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Mar 2010 22:12:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@stefan-marr.de; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@stefan-marr.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain stefan-marr.de from 85.88.12.247 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@stefan-marr.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.88.12.247 toolslave.net Received: from [85.88.12.247] ([85.88.12.247:46919] helo=uhweb12247.united-hoster.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A2/06-15916-3BD0C9B4 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:12:04 -0500 Received: from cust194-138.dsl.as47377.net ([62.166.194.138] helo=[192.168.0.12]) by uhweb12247.united-hoster.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NqZYp-0001X0-8N; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:11:58 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:11:51 +0100 Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <4B9BC369.6030404@keryx.se> <4B9BDA97.7010905@lerdorf.com> <7B961DE8-FCCA-4080-9E8A-490C22E4EBC9@stefan-marr.de> To: Sebastian Bergmann X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Next major version must be 7 (Lessons learned from the ECMAScript committee) From: php@stefan-marr.de (Stefan Marr) On 13 Mar 2010, at 22:55, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Stefan Marr wrote: >> Is that wise and well-considered or something the community might=20 >> regret in the long run? >=20 > The books in question have not been written by community members > (because those know better). I think there are so many PHP 6 books on > the market because greedy publishers want to release old content under > a new title and use a version bump (that has not happened yet) to = cover > up this fact. Even if that is the fact, first, I disagree with your definition of = community, and second, how does a PHP beginner know about that? These = are the people which will be confused. Anyway, that is a political discussion, and I share the concerns raised = in this thread. What ever the decision on that matter will be, it should be properly = documented together with the goals for 'The Next Big Thing'. And, well, I think, a proper RFC would be the way to go, to document the = goals/roadmap and have to have a base for discussion.=20 Best regards Stefan >=20 > --=20 > Sebastian Bergmann Co-Founder and Principal = Consultant > http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ = http://thePHP.cc/ >=20 >=20 > --=20 > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >=20 --=20 Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525