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To: Lukas Kahwe Smith <mls@pooteeweet.org>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Next major version must be 7 (Lessons learned from the ECMAScript committee)
From: philip@roshambo.org (Philip Olson)


On Mar 13, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:

>=20
> On 13.03.2010, at 22:52, Stefan Marr wrote:
>=20
>>=20
>> On 13 Mar 2010, at 22:43, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
>>=20
>>> Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>>>> No, not ok.  We will call the next release whatever we like.  =
People who
>>>> have written books or articles about PHP 6 inferring they knew what =
the
>>>> final state of PHP 6 would be were misguided.  We never got to the =
point
>>>> of a final feature set much less a release date.
>>>=20
>>> +1
>>>=20
>>> Authors that wrote, publishers that published and readers that =
bought
>>> books on PHP 6 need to be ... punished ;-)
>> Is that wise and well-considered or something the community might =
regret in the long run?
>=20
>=20
> Nobody needs to be punished and I think Rasmus stayed clear of such =
words for a reason. The name of the next version is not really all that =
relevant more if the next version will be a minor bump (aka x.y+1) or a =
major (aka x+1.y).

The PHP manual refers to "PHP 6" over 200 times, and there are probably =
a few people who've written code that takes this information into =
account. I'm not saying the proposal in this thread is a solution or =
needed, but there is a valid concern here.

The PHP manual will be updated once this is figured out, with extra care =
ensuring unicode and PHP 6 information is current. All suggestions for =
how to handle this today are welcome.

Regards,
Philip=