Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47245 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38970 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2010 22:06:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Mar 2010 22:06:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=marcot@tabini.ca; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=marcot@tabini.ca; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain tabini.ca from 206.190.36.80 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: marcot@tabini.ca X-Host-Fingerprint: 206.190.36.80 smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com Received: from [206.190.36.80] ([206.190.36.80:24369] helo=smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EB/15-15916-94C0C9B4 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:06:02 -0500 Received: (qmail 61609 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2010 22:05:57 -0000 Received: from [10.5.201.6] (marcot@12.105.18.195 with plain) by smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2010 14:05:57 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: ixLghyKswBAKSj5CKDFX3DAEGmQ- X-YMail-OSG: Mdl6piQVM1nw4rDTYXgkNR3E8XA4PT0GYk9FF2eRDFRbZzgXekPr5UY9j0yJRsXcKIc02oxg54R_w.Hy51PnMFrQjZuBYAlRRRpxL0IejmOmDo144XdHUyydJV3x6MqSSeRaobFkuk4GExfEShOzophdrjIt5IsrsjKJbvkNSBTVq02ex77IPEasvT1uYS8drbVOytvXlIbQ.qU600giHC.DxO7V1mx.pccCa_7EByBpdmj8Xl0ZeaSPupdYhKBgxmSW13Ha464Pu7zq2FUnH3NG.PVsezBrLvJAydgsrKJLZ40dnNkS44oaEjEKCu8IcLmgc9Vf5Ivs3GpXJetAzEpbpmdFru3jZXtNOBjpDfvxQve1gV2o.ZmZWVfWIW16vRQSAz67RAPI5aZm1IEvIG8CN_m1 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-163-300464599 In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:05:56 -0500 Cc: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <5BA099C5-13A3-4B48-A928-94B853F2A60A@tabini.ca> References: <4B9BC369.6030404@keryx.se> <4B9BDA97.7010905@lerdorf.com> <7B961DE8-FCCA-4080-9E8A-490C22E4EBC9@stefan-marr.de> To: Sebastian Bergmann X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Next major version must be 7 (Lessons learned from the ECMAScript committee) From: marcot@tabini.ca (Marco Tabini) --Apple-Mail-163-300464599 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hey Sebastian=97 On 2010-03-13, at 4:55 PM, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Stefan Marr wrote: >> Is that wise and well-considered or something the community might=20 >> regret in the long run? >=20 > The books in question have not been written by community members > (because those know better). I think there are so many PHP 6 books on > the market because greedy publishers want to release old content under > a new title and use a version bump (that has not happened yet) to = cover > up this fact. Well said! In all fairness, though, this doesn't change the fact that = the books exist=97and that their keyword trolling is eventually going to = hurt those who look for information on PHP 6, if that's what the final = product is going to be called. But, really, who cares about a name while there isn't even a spec? The = name should be the last thing that needs to be considered=97literally, = so that the trolls don't have an opportunity to flood the market with = opportunistic titles until the new version is well defined and ready to = go. Calling it =93trunk=94 at this point ought to be more than enough, = IMO. =97Mt.= --Apple-Mail-163-300464599--