Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47222 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45746 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2010 15:08:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Mar 2010 15:08:21 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.170 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.170 mail-wy0-f170.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.170] ([74.125.82.170:57171] helo=mail-wy0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 07/44-15916-36AAB9B4 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:08:20 -0500 Received: by wyb36 with SMTP id 36so231987wyb.29 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:08:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OvTTQ4zIGm4Ov5EKOGkmNWeZ5hEOC17Lvod3RQ+b8UI=; b=VH4jvHs+e6GzUCdRNeVKG6v968bfKuGo53ZoQaNGzTeJmQ3WvdKljNckvpd5hDS0nS iR8ozgVjsurdoghy/QU0akQ7s2SNU7pAalNENGzsh9iBDWy8s4ImTpxY2FUTst0K2RNl wfjbqGVhraSGH3ubQW9d0ViDH7zQJaPN+pMvk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xknnVk2Om7dsr9bRCgKeILumnquiwK2z5vU6/vNM4ScuccQBe9ett8RNdd2RGFT1rM yWJDdv7XyWMfujuZl/Q5zY19jjabpZSqDVEFhoxxckzbuDydzfsZyCg4OlPyRylN6wWU PKp2ODh8N9WlZMxxS5BN4t9hGxAm/vPcxGew4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.91.10 with SMTP id g10mr823996wef.217.1268492896826; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:08:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4B9926E8.4080202@lerdorf.com> <7f3ed2c31003120958w7bd41059o88869669c6f5b0d9@mail.gmail.com> <661d85d51003130107o7cf19012m7ce93f0147c7585a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:08:16 +0100 Message-ID: To: Moriyoshi Koizumi Cc: Chen Ze , Derick Rethans , Hannes Magnusson , Rasmus Lerdorf , PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Moriyoshi Koizumi wrote: > I don't totally agree with what is being said here, but I guess we > don't have to make Unicode a first-class value. =A0Once operator > overloading is supported, Unicode strings can be represented as > objects, like Python does although =A0I didn't have a look at past > discussion on this topic. Operators overloading, while being a cool feature, should not be associated with Unicode&related features. Or we are going to do the exact same mistakes than before, way too many changes, features, work to even get a visible deadline for the next major release. Cheers, --=20 Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org