Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47180 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 41455 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2010 18:35:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Mar 2010 18:35:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=hannes.magnusson@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=hannes.magnusson@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.191 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: hannes.magnusson@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.191 mail-px0-f191.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.191] ([209.85.216.191:45008] helo=mail-px0-f191.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 49/9D-13686-A598A9B4 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:35:09 -0500 Received: by pxi29 with SMTP id 29so827160pxi.7 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:35:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6HWnWo9Qkz41ejBD1mAxoeibsg2Njp3s95b6VFncn7o=; b=eRfx4ZoLk/n0Jgoli65EVLmlEut27UfZxdy9oY2N9WgD+yt+yoB3QF/U+gb5Ch3Mb6 zDD10oTM+fI59PK0V3q9UDTPztJqrhfwTAmjAAyJae8euHamydNd6HKvIMqFLMYNPjHL VyFJw5CtMLlmc78pnaPgQowpIc7r/dJ1BXx8I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=bJbfreTo1dQ0kyj14nIOGd6pUXEBz6QqK/UTD9332EgRx9QEVND0PI1MGMT/lHD/57 KzItqIIPdK7aHmu5Y6ZqSBeA/T61BP8cwmMtxKj86odzR9AF9aj4C4HeUqPtm/S0f1aj SM7ImDMaQi2beyXpFZjwYIFpLjZi1ngyJwZ5E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.4.12 with SMTP id 12mr2914056wfd.138.1268418903795; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:35:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B9A880B.7060003@zend.com> References: <4B9926E8.4080202@lerdorf.com> <7f3ed2c31003120958w7bd41059o88869669c6f5b0d9@mail.gmail.com> <4B9A880B.7060003@zend.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:35:03 +0100 Message-ID: <7f3ed2c31003121035of414ae0k9e2577d8b22e7538@mail.gmail.com> To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 From: hannes.magnusson@gmail.com (Hannes Magnusson) On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 19:29, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >> Thats actually one of the ideas we had on IRC. >> That mbstring patch and more ext/intl features should be enough to >> solve "the unicode problem". > > That depends on your definition of "unicode problem". Original definition > AFAIK was that you shouldn't care about the encodings anymore and all > Unicode stuff (dbs, filesystems, output) will be supported, but it seems to > be harder than we thought. Yeah. We tried it, and it simply didn't pan out (performance, bc, lost interest, ..). As long as we provide the developers with necessary tools to support it, there shouldn't be any problem. Those who want to be blissfully unaware of unicode, can. Those who want to invest time in making sure their application can handle it, can. -Hannes