Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47172 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 25311 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2010 17:48:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Mar 2010 17:48:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jani.taskinen@iki.fi; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jani.taskinen@iki.fi; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain iki.fi from 204.13.248.72 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jani.taskinen@iki.fi X-Host-Fingerprint: 204.13.248.72 mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org Received: from [204.13.248.72] ([204.13.248.72:53016] helo=mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 59/3A-13686-15E7A9B4 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:48:01 -0500 Received: from a88-112-30-186.elisa-laajakaista.fi ([88.112.30.186] helo=localhost.localdomain) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Nq8xo-000Mep-U4; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:47:57 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 88.112.30.186 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1+55QHoXm791S16M6/rngf/4/eLRYIdE3I= Message-ID: <4B9A7E49.8020301@iki.fi> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:47:53 +0200 Reply-To: jani.taskinen@iki.fi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100301 Fedora/3.0.3-1.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Moriyoshi Koizumi CC: PHP Developers Mailing List References: <4B9926E8.4080202@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 From: jani.taskinen@iki.fi (Jani Taskinen) Is that new implementation in trunk already? Is it (or will it be) backwards compatible with the current one? --Jani On 03/12/2010 06:38 PM, Moriyoshi Koizumi wrote: > I'd love to see my brand-new mbstring implementation in the release. > Dropping mbstring completely won't be any good because lots of > applications rely on it, but I don't really want to maintain the funky > library bundled with it. > > Moriyoshi > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >> Ah, Jani went a little crazy today in his typical style to force a >> decision. The real decision is not whether to have a version 5.4 or >> not, it is all about solving the Unicode problem. The current effort >> has obviously stalled. We need to figure out how to get development >> back on track in a way that people can get on board. We knew the >> Unicode effort was hugely ambitious the way we approached it. There are >> other ways. >> >> So I think Lukas and others are right, let's move the PHP 6 trunk to a >> branch since we are still going to need a bunch of code from it and move >> development to trunk and start exploring lighter and more approachable >> ways to attack Unicode. We have a few already. Enhanced mbstring and >> ext/intl. Let's see some good ideas around that and work on those in >> trunk. Other features necessarily need to play along with these in the >> same branch. I refuse to go down the path of a 5.4 branch and a >> separate Unicode branch again. >> >> The main focus here needs to be to get everyone working in the same branch. >> >> -Rasmus >> >> -- >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >> >