Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47132 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 91977 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2010 21:42:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Mar 2010 21:42:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=christopher.jones@oracle.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=christopher.jones@oracle.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain oracle.com from 148.87.113.124 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: christopher.jones@oracle.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 148.87.113.124 rcsinet12.oracle.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [148.87.113.124] ([148.87.113.124:29120] helo=rcsinet12.oracle.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FE/71-18254-BC3699B4 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:42:35 -0500 Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by rcsinet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o2BLgUk2002657 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:42:32 GMT Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o2BF94Di012013 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:42:28 GMT Received: from abhmt021.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 74624261268343731; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:42:11 -0800 Received: from [130.35.68.31] (/130.35.68.31) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:42:10 -0800 Message-ID: <4B99639B.9030405@oracle.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:41:47 -0800 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <4B9926E8.4080202@lerdorf.com> <4B995F83.1000605@prohost.org> In-Reply-To: <4B995F83.1000605@prohost.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090208.4B9963C5.01E5:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 From: christopher.jones@oracle.com (Christopher Jones) Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > +1. I think we need we need to make "HEAD" a common use branch where > most of the developers trees are at and current HEAD iteration is just > not it. I'm +1. Jani's recent 5.3 changes should be reverted, PHP_5_4 rebranched again, and then the fixes/features merged to the new branch. I'd also like to see us start a slow deprioritization of 5.2 work. Instead effort should go into making 5.3 the prefered stable branch. One specific example is that Test Fest 2010 tests shouldn't be merged to 5.2. > > On 10-03-11 12:22 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >> Ah, Jani went a little crazy today in his typical style to force a >> decision. The real decision is not whether to have a version 5.4 or >> not, it is all about solving the Unicode problem. The current effort >> has obviously stalled. We need to figure out how to get development >> back on track in a way that people can get on board. We knew the >> Unicode effort was hugely ambitious the way we approached it. There are >> other ways. >> >> So I think Lukas and others are right, let's move the PHP 6 trunk to a >> branch since we are still going to need a bunch of code from it and move >> development to trunk and start exploring lighter and more approachable >> ways to attack Unicode. We have a few already. Enhanced mbstring and >> ext/intl. Let's see some good ideas around that and work on those in >> trunk. Other features necessarily need to play along with these in the >> same branch. I refuse to go down the path of a 5.4 branch and a >> separate Unicode branch again. >> >> The main focus here needs to be to get everyone working in the same branch. >> >> -Rasmus >> >> > -- Email: christopher.jones@oracle.com Tel: +1 650 506 8630 Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/ Free PHP Book: http://tinyurl.com/UGPOM