Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47130 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 77186 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2010 20:57:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Mar 2010 20:57:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 209.226.175.184 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.226.175.184 bc.sympatico.ca Solaris 8 (1) Received: from [209.226.175.184] ([209.226.175.184:57361] helo=tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F9/39-29095-439599B4 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:57:25 -0500 Received: from toip4.srvr.bell.ca ([209.226.175.87]) by tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20100311205722.TFDN22975.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@toip4.srvr.bell.ca> for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:57:22 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAO/jmEtGGXLi/2dsb2JhbACaYHO9N4R7BIMX Received: from unknown (HELO p1003.superclick.com) ([70.25.114.226]) by toip4.srvr.bell.ca with ESMTP; 11 Mar 2010 16:20:10 -0500 Received: from [10.2.240.126] ([10.2.240.126]) by p1003.superclick.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o2BMsAri032753; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:54:11 -0500 Message-ID: <4B99592D.7040008@lerdorf.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:57:17 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9pre) Gecko/20100309 Shredder/3.0.4pre MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jani.taskinen@iki.fi CC: internals Mailing List References: <4B9926E8.4080202@lerdorf.com> <4B995082.5030305@sci.fi> In-Reply-To: <4B995082.5030305@sci.fi> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) On 03/11/2010 12:20 PM, Jani Taskinen wrote: > The main focus should be that we actually start working. And not wait > for someone to do something miraculous on their own. I'm just sick and > tired of the cloak and dagger style and secret meetings and committees. > So please, do the talking openly on the mailing list, not some IRC > channels. And no more wikis. :) I haven't been to any cloak-and-dagger meetings in years. And haven't said a word on irc about it. So I am not sure what you are talking about. -Rasmus