Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47127 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 63822 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2010 20:20:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Mar 2010 20:20:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jani.taskinen@sci.fi; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jani.taskinen@sci.fi; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain sci.fi from 204.13.248.71 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jani.taskinen@sci.fi X-Host-Fingerprint: 204.13.248.71 mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org Received: from [204.13.248.71] ([204.13.248.71:64726] helo=mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 11/56-29095-980599B4 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:20:26 -0500 Received: from cs27025051.pp.htv.fi ([89.27.25.51] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Nporm-000Ijr-Jo; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:20:22 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 89.27.25.51 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX18PyV9EqcYDrSenTtR9UpZEZ81DxXrqQ5o= Message-ID: <4B995082.5030305@sci.fi> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:20:18 +0200 Reply-To: jani.taskinen@iki.fi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fi; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rasmus Lerdorf , internals Mailing List References: <4B9926E8.4080202@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: <4B9926E8.4080202@lerdorf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 From: jani.taskinen@sci.fi (Jani Taskinen) 11.3.2010 19:22, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > So I think Lukas and others are right, let's move the PHP 6 trunk to a > branch since we are still going to need a bunch of code from it and move > development to trunk and start exploring lighter and more approachable > ways to attack Unicode. We have a few already. Enhanced mbstring and > ext/intl. Let's see some good ideas around that and work on those in > trunk. Other features necessarily need to play along with these in the > same branch. I refuse to go down the path of a 5.4 branch and a > separate Unicode branch again. So it's just the name? Sorry, should have been more imaginative with that branch name. So what you're proposing is simply matter of renaming stuff. Rename trunk to branches/THIS_IS_LOST_CAUSE (or whatever) and PHP_5_4 to trunk. And we're a go. I really don't see reason to ditch current PHP_5_3 however, just to keep something to release stable stuff from.. > The main focus here needs to be to get everyone working in the same branch. The main focus should be that we actually start working. And not wait for someone to do something miraculous on their own. I'm just sick and tired of the cloak and dagger style and secret meetings and committees. So please, do the talking openly on the mailing list, not some IRC channels. And no more wikis. :) --Jani