Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:47121 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 36633 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2010 17:47:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Mar 2010 17:47:07 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 188.40.37.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 188.40.37.16 hq1.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [188.40.37.16] ([188.40.37.16:51777] helo=hq1.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F4/81-29095-99C299B4 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:47:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D262E30004; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:47:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from hq1.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hq1.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xdm7VZ8M0Rwj; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:47:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (217-162-131-234.dclient.hispeed.ch [217.162.131.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by hq1.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D4AB62E30003; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:47:00 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <4B9926E8.4080202@lerdorf.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:46:58 +0100 Cc: PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: References: <4B9926E8.4080202@lerdorf.com> To: Rasmus Lerdorf X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 11.03.2010, at 18:22, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > Ah, Jani went a little crazy today in his typical style to force a > decision. The real decision is not whether to have a version 5.4 or > not, it is all about solving the Unicode problem. The current effort > has obviously stalled. We need to figure out how to get development > back on track in a way that people can get on board. We knew the > Unicode effort was hugely ambitious the way we approached it. There are > other ways. > > So I think Lukas and others are right, let's move the PHP 6 trunk to a > branch since we are still going to need a bunch of code from it and move > development to trunk and start exploring lighter and more approachable > ways to attack Unicode. We have a few already. Enhanced mbstring and > ext/intl. Let's see some good ideas around that and work on those in > trunk. Other features necessarily need to play along with these in the > same branch. I refuse to go down the path of a 5.4 branch and a > separate Unicode branch again. > > The main focus here needs to be to get everyone working in the same branch. +1 for moving trunk to a branch and moving 5.3 to trunk. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org