Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:46879 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 54824 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2010 16:12:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jan 2010 16:12:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.219.219 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.219.219 mail-ew0-f219.google.com Received: from [209.85.219.219] ([209.85.219.219:42029] helo=mail-ew0-f219.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A8/8E-52645-9717C5B4 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:12:42 -0500 Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1194806ewy.1 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 08:12:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XHY0w+B0MXmBwX2T8EsSLI08z0CI+ZnhM+EAsiCFcF4=; b=t9Cdy708tpIxSTazFiPuS7NyqeFih5QsabrjEGuIWMj8MxGhfzgCuE9E4yLlO3F5rn JSPZG8Z9X5hsCXbH5RKGb60v/BdT8CqboS0YBrydKBEVpbs79FkaeQja5CHqe2W+2dP+ MxHrbWbEioElqIvd0B7tKKEZ50dAcl+jVyZ70= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=vnjnAeEu37nTsTZEfWZR3NSw20gC7HZrWpJMIhfDb8jx228yFKxgx7COkDHDDJSW1b Tqy2+EYAjSeY9eamoC3qQwj5+exCyRjbfaiM3Q9alpBjXOzciO4Q0LU9U0DCU7Xlzp3T mRDnwz1FELN26mFz7RVXHETiw3O8E4SxjfCzw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.87.9 with SMTP id x9mr2175620wee.0.1264340328441; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 05:38:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <57792e851001231226j5f7e6552s16a7a5aa80e8ea2e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B4DABED.4060202@easyflirt.com> <4B4E5943.3000706@wikimedia.org> <4B4E5D5B.9020805@zend.com> <4B4E6BE5.1070404@wikimedia.org> <4B4E79A6.2010904@zend.com> <4B4E8D15.60508@wikimedia.org> <57792e851001212136h12d7effaldeb75869808d8350@mail.gmail.com> <57792e851001221857m7954ee3ag4485d5cd695b6126@mail.gmail.com> <4B5A75B4.1080403@wikimedia.org> <57792e851001231226j5f7e6552s16a7a5aa80e8ea2e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:38:48 +0100 Message-ID: To: steve Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About optimization From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi, On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 9:26 PM, steve wrote: >> But community members are developing those things nonetheless. >> eAccelerator has an optimizer, there are several so-called byte code >> caches, and Roadsend is a promising compiler project. > > Have been developing for a more than a decade... PHP4 was the last > time there was real performance improvements in PHP itself. It seems that you did not look closely to the improvements made to PHP 5.3. About PHP being broken and other similar arguments, I'm waiting for your proposals ('work harder, higher, better" is not a proposal :) Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org