Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:46775 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 98257 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2010 09:12:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Jan 2010 09:12:17 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 209.85.217.224 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.224 mail-gx0-f224.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.224] ([209.85.217.224:54385] helo=mail-gx0-f224.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 41/91-22457-0F5245B4 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 04:12:17 -0500 Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so3465600gxk.1 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 01:12:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.105.17 with SMTP id d17mr5113922ybc.344.1263805932051; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 01:12:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.200.22? (c-98-234-184-167.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [98.234.184.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm285654yxe.20.2010.01.18.01.12.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 18 Jan 2010 01:12:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B5425E7.3010601@lerdorf.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 01:12:07 -0800 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jani.taskinen@iki.fi CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <1263654424.3127.43.camel@guybrush> <4B522D34.7030605@sci.fi> <4B5420FA.6020301@iki.fi> In-Reply-To: <4B5420FA.6020301@iki.fi> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Debian PHP patches From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) Jani Taskinen wrote: > On 01/17/2010 05:19 AM, Raphael Geissert wrote: >> Jani Taskinen wrote: >> >>> 16.1.2010 20:10, Raphael Geissert wrote: >>>> Some of the other patches include: >>>> libdb_is_-ldb >>> >>> Why? Potentially breaks things when you assume db/ being correct place.. >> >> Do you have an example of any actual case? > > Do you have an example where it's actually needed? > >> Can you tell me what exactly we are breaking? divert calls should only be >> used internally by autoconf and the, apparently useless, usage of them in >> php makes it fail to build with any other autoconf. > > If you remove them, things break. I don't remember right now why, but it > did, Rasmus tried this already and failed. Search the mailing lists for > more. His commit message is a bit weird, I think it should say "2.6x is > broken in so many ways" rather than 2.13: > > http://svn.php.net/viewvc?view=revision&revision=291414 Not really. It is only maintaining backward compatibility with 2.13 that is broken. In HEAD where we can drop that version entirely, things are fine. Since we can't do that in 5.3, I gave up on the changes for this branch. -Rasmus