Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:46315 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38626 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2009 14:34:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Dec 2009 14:34:37 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ilia@prohost.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ilia@prohost.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain prohost.org from 209.85.212.195 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ilia@prohost.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.195 mail-vw0-f195.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.195] ([209.85.212.195:54982] helo=mail-vw0-f195.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 86/69-31234-B721D1B4 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:34:36 -0500 Received: by vws33 with SMTP id 33so1692755vws.27 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.128.1 with SMTP id i1mr8303590vcs.87.1260196472826; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:34:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from paulalaptop.centah.local (dev.centah.com [67.215.199.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm12499509vws.11.2009.12.07.06.34.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:34:32 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:34:30 -0500 Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= , internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <1260193069.1383.33.camel@guybrush> <306DF528-C204-4B9E-8285-27D9FFDE11E5@prohost.org> <4478B8CF-9446-472E-BC40-C0B18EBFA1B8@prohost.org> To: Pierre Joye X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Towards 5.3.2 From: ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky) On 2009-12-07, at 9:27 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > 2009/12/7 Ilia Alshanetsky : >>=20 >> On 2009-12-07, at 9:19 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Which? We did review *all* 5.3 commits before going final. >>>>=20 >>>> The max # of file uploads was almost missed. >>>=20 >>> It was not, and we did not forget it because of the automatic TODOs = in >>> the wiki (it shows all commits in a list with their states, >>> http://wiki.php.net/todo/php531/log) :-). >>=20 >> BS, I reminded Johannes about that patch right before the final RC, = because it was still not merged. >=20 > I think you should reconsider the way you see the whole thing. I did > remind Johannes as well while reviewing the commits. That's nice that > you did it as well as it just shows that the system worked, double > safety. If anything it shows the "system" had failed and aside from yourself and = Johannes most developers have no idea what is and isn't part of the = release. More over there is a whole pile patches that were not merged = with no indication as to why... The amount of "no" and "?" is rather = alarming, especially when there is no indicator as to why. Additionally, would be possible to get some clarity as to who is = actually is the RM for the 5.3.X tree, first it was Johannes, then = Johannes and Lukas, now you seem to be playing a big role in it. Can I = (we) get some clarity around that.