Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:46314 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 37217 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2009 14:27:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Dec 2009 14:27:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.160.44 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.44 mail-pw0-f44.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.44] ([209.85.160.44:52706] helo=mail-pw0-f44.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 49/19-31234-CE01D1B4 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:27:58 -0500 Received: by pwi15 with SMTP id 15so876799pwi.23 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:27:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6YdQvU8xQZPakDLO8kzmB2OzlsqIH084nigqLG63uBI=; b=Drg1pe703fbBZ/Wxr68qK7MacJsWN6yosA+oWcfCUICUHJAOGWz6mQY5fBJcniH+do /xSgFsOUmXuSSYxhJCTIohCVC216qzmW5FPVaryCcNJ5wOC5Gw8xWWMk50SpKqQKch0r MmJhFoC3UveFT3UbaDeTFoyfew1Ka+7/9kC0g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=aqFpBmeEcFwrfa9pC7ceJZaw+0iASRdFLD6ZL9t+jM7iZOr/O1WPDUK9YP+ZUxerEv gEoFPmWfVpn0SDoOFNX7tOkwo/Kn26XpZzjYhN/lUXcmfg7DkDM/mgwmNryTkTWWcBwB pKNrkszTOFHcKR/hQ2xOz9+fbx4zLRJ1rE2gM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.20.13 with SMTP id x13mr686006wfi.55.1260196073652; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:27:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4478B8CF-9446-472E-BC40-C0B18EBFA1B8@prohost.org> References: <1260193069.1383.33.camel@guybrush> <306DF528-C204-4B9E-8285-27D9FFDE11E5@prohost.org> <4478B8CF-9446-472E-BC40-C0B18EBFA1B8@prohost.org> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:27:53 +0100 Message-ID: To: Ilia Alshanetsky Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= , internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Towards 5.3.2 From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) 2009/12/7 Ilia Alshanetsky : > > On 2009-12-07, at 9:19 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: >>>> >>>> Which? We did review *all* 5.3 commits before going final. >>> >>> The max # of file uploads was almost missed. >> >> It was not, and we did not forget it because of the automatic TODOs in >> the wiki (it shows all commits in a list with their states, >> http://wiki.php.net/todo/php531/log) :-). > > BS, I reminded Johannes about that patch right before the final RC, because it was still not merged. I think you should reconsider the way you see the whole thing. I did remind Johannes as well while reviewing the commits. That's nice that you did it as well as it just shows that the system worked, double safety. Now, about the way we do releases. Everyone agrees that is a mess, no real plan or ability to define a clear roadmap. 5.3.1 has shown that there is a way to solve that problem without influencing the day to day job of the other core developers while making the release process safer (no last minute breakage due to wild commits for example). There is stilll a lot to do to make this process better and friendly but we are on the right track. Cheers, -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org