Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:46304 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 24290 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2009 13:48:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Dec 2009 13:48:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:35874] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AA/26-31234-0B70D1B4 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:48:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512514144059; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:49:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gBwMHn+4g9U8; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:49:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (217-162-131-234.dclient.hispeed.ch [217.162.131.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18384144058; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:49:48 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:48:27 +0100 Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= , internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <0645A1AC-EBE8-4A44-9EFD-39C5E1F33E3B@pooteeweet.org> References: <1260193069.1383.33.camel@guybrush> To: Ilia Alshanetsky X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Towards 5.3.2 From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 07.12.2009, at 14:41, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > While the separate branch release for 5.3.1 was a worthwhile = experiment, I think it creates too much opportunity for missed patches = and quite frankly makes the whole release process confusing and = complicated. My personal preference would be that 5.3.2, not be released = from a separate branch. I remember that when I was RM that the need for code freezes was one of = the most painful things to manage. So not having to deal with that seems = like a very appealing target for all involved. As for risk of missed patches and confusion. I think Pierre did the best = he could to improve the transparency of the process with the wiki page. = However we still have plenty of ways to make this even clearer and more = obvious to follow. Especially integration into the bug tracker (aka = milestone support) would go a long way here. Making sure that every = commit has a bug id attached (or if necessary gets a bug ticket created = on the fly and the id injected into the commit) could also help. Obviously such infrastructure will not materialize over night, but I = would urge everything to not drop the idea entirely. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org