Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:46011 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 97970 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2009 20:31:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 20:31:24 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.185 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.185 il-mr1.zend.com Received: from [212.25.124.185] ([212.25.124.185:40386] helo=il-mr1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 07/4B-38546-B9DC9FA4 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:31:24 -0500 Received: from us-gw1.zend.com (unknown [192.168.16.5]) by il-mr1.zend.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767995048D; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:18:50 +0200 (IST) Received: from [192.168.16.66] ([192.168.16.66]) by us-gw1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:31:18 -0800 Message-ID: <4AF9CD95.8080604@zend.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:31:17 -0800 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lukas Kahwe Smith CC: Guilherme Blanco , PHP Developers Mailing List References: <413588E2-8AC8-49F7-B7BF-97BEFB0A71E4@pooteeweet.org> <4AF9B5B8.90104@zend.com> <536BF944-AB9D-4B5F-86CB-B75D3C0D7F63@pooteeweet.org> <4AF9B9FE.1040701@zend.com> <40A3B652-6B6A-49C1-9481-40AA6EC7537A@pooteeweet.org> <4AF9C13B.4030104@zend.com> <32979771-1825-4D93-822D-93B27CA7262F@pooteeweet.org> In-Reply-To: <32979771-1825-4D93-822D-93B27CA7262F@pooteeweet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2009 20:31:18.0246 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1D0B860:01CA6244] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] alternative to the fopen() hack in autoloaders From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > ok .. so your objection to the RFC is solely because it introduces a new > language construct? No, my objection is that it is not necessary to introduce a language construct, and the construct introduced is not the right one. If frameworks want to find out if file exists or get its name - we should give them API to do that. If they want just to silence the errors - they already have the construct to do that. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com