Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:45774 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 61579 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2009 18:36:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Oct 2009 18:36:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:50266] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 65/86-54920-D1773DA4 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:36:13 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D399414400B; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:37:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8cbQAOV2IcZG; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:37:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (217-162-131-234.dclient.hispeed.ch [217.162.131.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BFF4144009; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:37:10 +0200 (CEST) Cc: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <0BE6D5D1-4A1E-40BF-AF7F-F5DB12F52E46@pooteeweet.org> To: Mark Krenz In-Reply-To: <20091012174659.GP5179@arvo.suso.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:36:08 +0200 References: <20091012154610.GJ5179@arvo.suso.org> <20091012160854.GK5179@arvo.suso.org> <4AD356D5.2020605@lerdorf.com> <20091012162227.GL5179@arvo.suso.org> <20091012165734.GN5179@arvo.suso.org> <4AD3638B.6080103@cschneid.com> <20091012174659.GP5179@arvo.suso.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Why is ereg being deprecated? From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 12.10.2009, at 19:47, Mark Krenz wrote: >>> If ereg isn't ready yet then 6.0 should be delayed until it is >>> ready. >> >> It probably never will be... > > That's bullshit. Its not like Duke Nukem or something. I've never > seen a major version of PHP take more than a couple years to release > and > PHP 6 seems to be well on its way. I expected it would be released > sometime in 2010. Uhm, please keep your language under control. Anyways PHP6 has been delayed quite a few times, which is why PHP 5.3 was released to get a lot of the PHP6 non unicode features into the hands of users earlier. Anyways if at all .. PHP6 will come out late 2010, but I think the first stable release will not come before 2011, meaning that there will be around 2 years between it being marked deprecated in a stable release and it disappearing in the latest stable release. Chances are high that the PHP5 tree will still be actively maintained for a few years there after and that the big libraries will not drop PHP5 support until a few years as well, so for most users they will have about 3-5 years to adapt. The rest are people who want to be on the bleeding edge and those users usually write their own code to be bleeding edge too. So relax and again if you feel that your paying customers will suffer too much, pay someone to write the code. Furthermore, if you care about PHP, you might want to register for a wiki account and write up that summary about this discussion, so that we can spare us starting this discussion at zero again in the future. Thanks and have a nice day. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org