Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:45770 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 55813 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2009 18:14:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Oct 2009 18:14:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=chrisstocktonaz@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=chrisstocktonaz@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.211.201 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: chrisstocktonaz@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.211.201 mail-yw0-f201.google.com Received: from [209.85.211.201] ([209.85.211.201:48752] helo=mail-yw0-f201.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BA/55-54920-DE173DA4 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:14:05 -0400 Received: by ywh39 with SMTP id 39so3367668ywh.26 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:14:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4yE5vMhvb/DQEKi6JUl13z5mS85l/sdts7Mu0MzSzdg=; b=LVT6s2YX1hGNMi3E6ObTVya/G9ta7HmfrLf8rZlW1kI7bA5AyCbdiddb3EnN278H8t RPjNFNqEdixcGF5MOkCsrDyMnrwJapJowvJAkpGTWdmLU3+T2mdRsgwX1tt9vE6e4SCQ 0W3vVwhxQ0YhYEjEmhevPszYfCsvmce6Bh4VY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dhMLa0ll9rchJ3fvKbJo01x/pQcPootsWw3o8IMi2Ahk8mblAw1KdwxseLvedvWuxJ EZgVTEZ9sCfWOxGOQ65uINHKpnZGB3hRTkNnUKixt3iAqt1dFppI6XqF1DhnpuRBOu1Y SgdCcCkhMEAIpn41mEw78YkOuxVLUUT9PgTew= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.87.1 with SMTP id p1mr10647357ybl.116.1255371242883; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:14:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20091012173621.GO5179@arvo.suso.org> References: <20091012154610.GJ5179@arvo.suso.org> <20091012160854.GK5179@arvo.suso.org> <4AD356D5.2020605@lerdorf.com> <20091012162227.GL5179@arvo.suso.org> <20091012165734.GN5179@arvo.suso.org> <20091012173621.GO5179@arvo.suso.org> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:14:02 -0700 Message-ID: To: Mark Krenz Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Why is ereg being deprecated? From: chrisstocktonaz@gmail.com (Chris Stockton) Hello, On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Mark Krenz wrote: > =A0Whenever I bring up an issue like this with the PHP devs, I feel like > you guys never experience having to support PHP. Among other things, I > am the main sysadmin for my web hosting company and have been supporting > PHP since version 3 there. When 4.0 came out, I had to help people > change their code accordingly to fix any changes and so on with > subsequent versions. > .. snip ... > =A0So for the project developers to just say screw you, we're dropping > ereg in 6 and you can't do anything about it without giving a chance for > that information to make its way downstream is pretty cold and will lead > to a lot of angry people that maybe you don't have to deal with, but the > rest of us that run servers and maintain code have to deal with. Just because you did not find the information does not mean it was unavailable. Assuming developers are saying "screw you" is just ignorant. No one says you have to upgrade to PHP6 the moment it is available. you could run PHP5 another 10 years if you choose. If you choose to go through whatever measures you find necessary then no one is at fault except for you. Many web hosting companies waited until after PHP4 was entirely deprecated to upgrade to PHP5, and some, likely still run PHP4 on some servers for customers to stubborn to upgrade. Your assumption of responsibility I find incorrect, your general approach to this discussion I find distasteful. If it bothers you this much put a patch out, that can be discussed and perhaps applied depending on the consensus. -Chris