Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:45415 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5070 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2009 17:11:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Aug 2009 17:11:41 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 63.205.162.117 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.205.162.117 us-mr1.zend.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [63.205.162.117] ([63.205.162.117:50782] helo=us-mr1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A3/76-21292-BCC659A4 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:11:40 -0400 Received: from us-gw1.zend.com (us-ex1.zend.net [192.168.16.5]) by us-mr1.zend.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F4EE123D; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.27.7] ([192.168.27.7]) by us-gw1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:09:22 -0700 Message-ID: <4A956BF7.703@zend.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:08:07 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derick Rethans CC: Ilia Alshanetsky , Greg Beaver , 'PHP Internals' References: <4A92D936.2010107@zend.com> <4A931A1C.804@chiaraquartet.net> <39F20BFC-DAA0-4403-A52E-62CE5F4CF0FE@prohost.org> <4A9346CA.3070608@chiaraquartet.net> <4B0E7BED-C2AE-4BE5-B6CA-00B810168961@prohost.org> <4A938706.8060600@zend.com> <4A941315.9070300@zend.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Aug 2009 17:09:22.0120 (UTC) FILETIME=[F4A59C80:01CA266F] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [patch] error masks From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > I don't find it useful, and obviously not everybody agreed with all the > things in Chicago either. I didn't find this back in the notes either > (http://wiki.php.net/summits/pdmnotesmay09). I got that _you_ don't find it useful. I wish people could get outside of the box and consider what others might find useful, but obviously we're not there yet. It's not like we have millions of users with diverse usage patterns that we would need to think of, and it's not like we need to bother trying to find some consensual mechanism of making decisions. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com