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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [patch] error masks
From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev)

Hi!

> Considering that there shouldn't be any errors in the first place, this 

You must be kidding me. Any fopen of non-existing file, and loading of 
non-perfect XML from third party produces errors. There is absolutely no 
way you can write code that does anything useful that would guaranteedly 
never produce errors. Moreover, any attempt to do it would make your 
code 2-3 times slower, as you'd have to do most of the actions twice - 
once to check if it would succeed and one to actually do it (as with 
file_exists/fopen) and even then you could fail.

> is of course a moot point. Sure, 3rd party code (PEAR pcakges?) might 
> throw errors like crazy on PHP 5, they need to be *fixed* anyway. So if 

They won't be fixed. I am getting an impression nobody's actually 
reading the comments, only writing. Once again: I'm not talking about 
people that are looking for errors in their code to debug, I am talking 
about setups disabling errors ON PURPOSE, because they DO NOT WANT them. 
Different use case.

BTW we discussed that in Chicago meetup and agreed we want to do it. Of 
course, not that agreeing on anything ever would stand in a way of 
wasting another bunch of time on repeating same stuff over and over and 
nobody listening and blocking another useful feature.
-- 
Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect
stas@zend.com   http://www.zend.com/
(408)253-8829   MSN: stas@zend.com