Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:44870 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 2451 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2009 13:03:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Jul 2009 13:03:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dennis@born05.nl; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dennis@born05.nl; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain born05.nl from 217.19.16.165 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dennis@born05.nl X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.19.16.165 node04.cambriumhosting.nl Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.19.16.165] ([217.19.16.165:58842] helo=node04.cambriumhosting.nl) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 90/20-01425-78AE55A4 for ; Thu, 09 Jul 2009 09:03:03 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by node04.cambriumhosting.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180D8B0000A6; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 15:03:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV (clamav.cambrium.nl) at node.cambriumhosting.nl Received: from node04.cambriumhosting.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (node04.cambriumhosting.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dW-mFup4K+C3; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 15:02:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dennis (84-245-29-103.dsl.cambrium.nl [84.245.29.103]) by node04.cambriumhosting.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB036B000094; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 15:02:57 +0200 (CEST) To: "'Paul Biggar'" Cc: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090708224156.0ac5a438@zend.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20090709121921.0ae17d58@zend.com> <000001ca0082$f8c15a10$ea440e30$@nl> <000901ca0091$7d0a37c0$771ea740$@nl> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 15:02:57 +0200 Message-ID: <000b01ca0095$94a0e560$bde2b020$@nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoAk2d+XN/0q9YFTxqCdmh3Qk0VNwAAfmAQ Content-Language: nl Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Type hinting - Request for Discussion From: dennis@born05.nl ("Dennis Haarbrink") > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Paul Biggar [mailto:paul.biggar@gmail.com] > Verzonden: donderdag 9 juli 2009 14:40 > Aan: Dennis Haarbrink > CC: internals@lists.php.net > Onderwerp: Re: [PHP-DEV] Type hinting - Request for Discussion > > You must learn what these quirks are. Likewise, every developer must > learn the quirks of the "type hinting" as they will almost certainly > be required to interact with code that uses it. > > In an extreme case, suppose that we completely balls-ed up the > semantics of type checks to be really really hard to use, but people > used them anyway. That would lead to a sharp learning curve. The > people who are against this proposal, or any other, know they will be > required to use it when it comes in, and have an interest in making > sure it is clean (whatever that means in each case). We shouldn't > dismiss their objections on the argument that they arent required to > use it. If its in the language, they are required to learn it. > > Paul > > > > -- > Paul Biggar > paul.biggar@gmail.com Thanks for this elaboration, I totally see your point. Regards, Dennis Haarbrink