Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:44828 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 88619 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2009 11:03:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jul 2009 11:03:48 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jani.taskinen@sci.fi; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jani.taskinen@sci.fi; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain sci.fi from 204.13.248.72 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jani.taskinen@sci.fi X-Host-Fingerprint: 204.13.248.72 mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org Received: from [204.13.248.72] ([204.13.248.72:63619] helo=mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F6/12-12124-31D745A4 for ; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 07:03:48 -0400 Received: from a88-112-30-186.elisa-laajakaista.fi ([88.112.30.186] helo=localhost.localdomain) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1MOUwD-000NCm-76; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:03:45 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 88.112.30.186 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX19PtVE4cCq+AEBoKb9ulRaC98OftIjQnrg= Message-ID: <4A547D03.1040200@sci.fi> Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:03:31 +0300 Reply-To: jani.taskinen@iki.fi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090320) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Ilia Alshanetsky , PHP internals References: <2D0F5226-EBCA-4B45-BF01-8ED1C643976C@prohost.org> <1247006344.3760.164.camel@goldfinger.johannes.nop> <4A53D6E8.7080705@lerdorf.com> <4A53EBBE.4070801@lerdorf.com> <4BF8363B-B28F-4A87-98B7-13E125E1A5F1@prohost.org> <4A547B67.4040501@php.net> In-Reply-To: <4A547B67.4040501@php.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Type hinting/casting request for vote From: jani.taskinen@sci.fi (Jani Taskinen) Jani Taskinen wrote: > Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: >> >> On 7-Jul-09, at 8:43 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >> >>> That doesn't really change the timing, especially since you said you >>> have been using it for 2 years. Why pick the week after the 5.3 release >>> to propose it for 5.3? It makes very little sense to me, and I think >>> consensus is building that we aren't going to add this to 5.3. >> >> I wish I had time to post the patch sooner, but timing was such that >> it was not an option. Plus people have tried to post the same >> functionality before there was patch from Hannes back in 2006, a full >> RFC by Fellipe in 2008 (with patch) and now my attempt in 2009. After >> some discussions at the developer meeting in Chicago and seeing that >> there was a substantial interest in the feature I've cleaned up the >> code and posted the patch. >> >> >>> I think half the people who voted +1 didn't realize you were seriously >>> thinking of pushing it into 5.3 >> >> Well, its only Tuesday there is plenty of time for people to change >> their mind (like some already have). Agreeably its a major decisions >> and I think everyone would agree it should not hinge on 1-2 votes >> either way, there has to be a substantial "let it in" consensus for it >> to go in. > > Like I said earlier on IRC, I'm +1 for this in 5.4 if that ever happens. > Otherwise it's gotta be PHP 6. Or just spork. :) > > --Jani > One more thing: It seems there is no reason not to simply commit it to HEAD. That's the development branch, if the thing isn't good, it can be removed / modified / etc. This voting is really whether it should be merged or not.. --Jani