Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:44814 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10932 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2009 02:39:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jul 2009 02:39:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ilia@prohost.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ilia@prohost.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain prohost.org from 209.85.198.229 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ilia@prohost.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.198.229 rv-out-0506.google.com Received: from [209.85.198.229] ([209.85.198.229:16993] helo=rv-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1A/00-10517-7C6045A4 for ; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:39:04 -0400 Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so1672480rvb.23 for ; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.157.1 with SMTP id f1mr2669392rve.189.1247020359624; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.132? (CPE0018f8c0ee69-CM000f9f7d6664.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.238.11.214]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g31sm1487583rvb.30.2009.07.07.19.32.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Paul Biggar , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= , PHP internals Message-ID: <4BF8363B-B28F-4A87-98B7-13E125E1A5F1@prohost.org> To: Rasmus Lerdorf In-Reply-To: <4A53EBBE.4070801@lerdorf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:32:36 -0400 References: <2D0F5226-EBCA-4B45-BF01-8ED1C643976C@prohost.org> <1247006344.3760.164.camel@goldfinger.johannes.nop> <4A53D6E8.7080705@lerdorf.com> <4A53EBBE.4070801@lerdorf.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Type hinting/casting request for vote From: ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky) On 7-Jul-09, at 8:43 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > That doesn't really change the timing, especially since you said you > have been using it for 2 years. Why pick the week after the 5.3 > release > to propose it for 5.3? It makes very little sense to me, and I think > consensus is building that we aren't going to add this to 5.3. I wish I had time to post the patch sooner, but timing was such that it was not an option. Plus people have tried to post the same functionality before there was patch from Hannes back in 2006, a full RFC by Fellipe in 2008 (with patch) and now my attempt in 2009. After some discussions at the developer meeting in Chicago and seeing that there was a substantial interest in the feature I've cleaned up the code and posted the patch. > I think half the people who voted +1 didn't realize you were seriously > thinking of pushing it into 5.3 Well, its only Tuesday there is plenty of time for people to change their mind (like some already have). Agreeably its a major decisions and I think everyone would agree it should not hinge on 1-2 votes either way, there has to be a substantial "let it in" consensus for it to go in. Ilia