Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:44784 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 25075 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2009 18:13:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jul 2009 18:13:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:35787] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 32/66-17523-360935A4 for ; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:13:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B524144060; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 18:15:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FrsdOu8KAl2J; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:15:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (84-72-88-166.dclient.hispeed.ch [84.72.88.166]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C1F414405E; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:15:01 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Andrei Zmievski , Ilia Alshanetsky , PHP internals Message-ID: <47A0DCD5-C43A-4DDD-8C4D-5E7CE2D710F2@pooteeweet.org> To: Paul Biggar In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:13:49 +0200 References: <2D0F5226-EBCA-4B45-BF01-8ED1C643976C@prohost.org> <4A53825F.1080006@gravitonic.com> <4A53832E.6030105@gravitonic.com> <6D12BDB9-35F6-4CB8-9E25-6571F4C51B59@pooteeweet.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Type hinting/casting request for vote From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 07.07.2009, at 20:04, Paul Biggar wrote: >> Of course I am also quite opposed to sticking this into 5.3. > > On which grounds? If you don't like the feature, please cast a -1 That adding language syntax sugar anything but a major or minor release is a bad idea. And this even if Ilia does manage to solve the BC issues. If there are BC issues, we shouldnt even have to talk about 5.3 for one second. > vote. If its because of the BC problems, I believe you and Johannes > have veto power on what goes into 5.3.x? If so, do you intend to use > it? I dont think we have a veto power, nor would I want to use it if we did have one. One job is to keep things focused and appeal to the general sanity if we feel that things are going off track. I would want to appeal to the general sanity on this one though :) regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org