Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:44702 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71409 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2009 18:13:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Jul 2009 18:13:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:54441] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A1/8A-06257-3BB9F4A4 for ; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:13:08 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5446414405A; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 18:13:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id luPCPIarc3Sw; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:13:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.142.90.17] (gprs01.swisscom-mobile.ch [193.247.250.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A0E414400B; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:13:58 +0200 (CEST) References: <5A834C9A-6D1B-49B7-88E6-FF047B084AB6@pooteeweet.org> Message-ID: <9B8C39B7-A5F8-4E61-BD7E-2069E584290D@pooteeweet.org> To: Paul Biggar In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A341) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:12:31 +0200 Cc: PHP Internals Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] weak and strict type checking RFC From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 04.07.2009, at 16:05, Paul Biggar wrote: > Hi Lukas, > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Lukas Kahwe > Smith wrote: >> Last evening I put together a quick proposal for a weak and strict >> checking >> approach, since I felt that things were being concluded a bit >> prematurely. >> More importantly I detailed the issues I see with a pure strict type >> checking only approach. > > > I can't see the difference between your proposal and the conclusion I > reached yesterday? > > (which was that there is a near consensus around strict checks by > default, with casts allowed with some syntax). Well to me it Sounded like you wanted to Rely on Standard Type juggling and what i am proposing is more strict than that. More over i am Not convinced that strict should Be the Default. Regards, Lukas