Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:44478 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 24028 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2009 19:02:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Jun 2009 19:02:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:45642] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4A/A2-08868-D2B154A4 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:02:06 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E9C1EBC01B; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:02:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tc3S55d3Br4x; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:02:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.158.0.31] (gprs25.swisscom-mobile.ch [193.247.250.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780741EBC019; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:02:10 +0200 (CEST) References: <9A46F4B8-E64A-4C3C-B2A5-FC354A3EB71D@pooteeweet.org> <0C2F23C2-D188-4938-B44C-4ED166B934CE@macvicar.net> Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A341) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:59:14 +0200 Cc: Scott MacVicar , PHP internals Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] post 5.3.0 development From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 26.06.2009, at 20:26, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Scott MacVicar > wrote: >> On 26 Jun 2009, at 16:26, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: >> >>> Aloha, >>> >>> So the last fix is just being prepared for a commit and so we will >>> be >>> tagging 5.3.0 soon. >>> >>> We would like to up hold the commit freeze until 5.3.0 is >>> announced next >>> Tuesday. >>> >> >> This freeze that you guys have implemented is frustrating, just >> branch 5_3 >> into a release branch and Johannes can take selective fixes from >> 5_3 as >> needed. >> >> We all know your reasons for the freeze and agree with it but >> holding up >> regular development is a PITA. > > It is not holding up development. It is about getting a viable release > cycle and to give us the minimum safety to release 5.3.1 in a > reasonable time frame. Please explain me what's wrong to allow only > bug fixes for this phase? > > Also please note that we have HEAD for all the developments and new > features. Exactly. I will do my best to track things that need to be merged. Best is to note if something needs to be merged. But if you all feel it's such a huge burden then you can of course insist on putting the burden on the RMs. The fact of the matter is that our current infrastructure is not fit for providing both sides with an efficient solution. Regards, Lukas