Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:44457 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 85166 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2009 17:20:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jun 2009 17:20:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:40015] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B5/25-20236-460624A4 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:20:37 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF300414405D; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:20:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CdSCR6TshUko; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:20:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (84-72-88-166.dclient.hispeed.ch [84.72.88.166]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6C64144058; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:20:33 +0200 (CEST) To: jvlad In-Reply-To: <4C.FD.36467.823704A4@pb1.pair.com> X-Priority: 3 References: <688E0CB7-742C-4861-B636-0C89DC4D8B9A@pooteeweet.org> <06.D1.20019.45C1F3A4@pb1.pair.com> <7f3ed2c30906220017j6fcea76do2190af3f3ff2d763@mail.gmail.com> <38.7A.20019.C9D6F3A4@pb1.pair.com> <7f3ed2c30906220445m469c0faxc6e28b242dffb086@mail.gmail.com> <4A3FAE37.5020102@chiaraquartet.net> <5B.23.08779.7D9CF3A4@pb1.pair.com> <4A400631.4040309@chiaraquartet.net> <4A400825.6020009@oracle.com> <4C.FD.36467.823704A4@pb1.pair.com> Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:20:32 +0200 Cc: internals@lists.php.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: 5.3.0 stable release From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 23.06.2009, at 08:15, jvlad wrote: >>> >>> 1. you're wrong, PHP does not depend on system-wide installed >>> pear, it >>> will simply use it if present >>> 2. nothing is missing. see http://pear.php.net/PHP_Archive >>> >>> If installed, phar.phar will function (partially) without the phar >>> extension being present. >>> >>> In other words, not a problem, not a bug. >> >> Greg, >> >> Can the messages be enhanced e.g. explaining what will happen in >> these >> cases? For example "pear: not found. Using XXX instead" would help >> users for #1. >> > > As far as I understand "pear: not found" is a shell message thrown > into > output (stderr?) when make tried to run non-existing system's pear. if someone has a safe looking patch to improve this, we can consider including it in 5.3.0 regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org